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Old 06-06-2012, 01:14 AM
 
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I have been told by a mormon that 99.9999% of humanity will be saved either in this life, or in the afterlife and only those who are guilty of blasphemy against the holy spirit are lost forever. So, are you saying this is not accurate? How can I believe anything they say when one mormon tells me one thing, and another tells me something else?
Go to the lds.org web site and find out for yourself. When it comes to religion, people say wrong stuff all the time. Also, people misinterpret what they're told. I don't know which happened in your case, maybe some of both.

Also, it depends on your definition of "saved". Mormons believe in different levels of heaven (also known as "degrees of glory"). It's not the black-and-white Heaven/Hell approach used in the rest of Christianity.

 
Old 06-06-2012, 01:22 AM
 
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We all are faced with various lusts and temptations. You are not unique in that respect.
This is the one the religious dogmatists always pull out. The difference is this:

Tell a heterosexual person that they either have to marry a person of the same gender or stay celibate their whole lives and see how high the success rate is. This is the equivalent standard of what homosexuals are expected to live.

If the double standard isn't obvious, it's because you're not looking.
 
Old 06-06-2012, 08:10 AM
 
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Go to the lds.org web site and find out for yourself. When it comes to religion, people say wrong stuff all the time. Also, people misinterpret what they're told. I don't know which happened in your case, maybe some of both.

Also, it depends on your definition of "saved". Mormons believe in different levels of heaven (also known as "degrees of glory"). It's not the black-and-white Heaven/Hell approach used in the rest of Christianity.
I'd rather see you quote it from lds.org, because my argument was already confirmed by another mormon.

"Saved" as taught in the Bible means you have eternal life with the Lord as opposed to not having it. Existing in any level of heaven would mean the person was saved.
 
Old 06-10-2012, 05:32 AM
 
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I went to Capital Pride yesterday and a group of Mormons marched in D.C. Pride too! (I was thinking about you, Katzpur!) There were a bunch of other Christian-affiliated groups too, including Baptists, Lutherans, and Protestants. Personally I think it's great that people can be Christian and allies.

There was a man who was preaching the Bible and preaching against homosexuality. For what it's worth, my interpreter friend even went up, stood next to the man, and started interpreting into sign language for my Deaf friend--even though my interpreter friend is gay and disagrees vehemently with what the man was saying. Most people were just acting "really gay" around the preacher guy and telling him that God loves him and everyone else too.

Isn't it a beautiful thing when people are just allowed to believe what they want, without taking each other's rights away?
 
Old 06-10-2012, 07:54 AM
 
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I went to Capital Pride yesterday and a group of Mormons marched in D.C. Pride too! (I was thinking about you, Katzpur!)
Thank you, nimchimpsky!
 
Old 06-10-2012, 08:32 AM
 
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Please discuss the topic. This thread is not about the Morman religion itself.
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