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Old 06-15-2012, 05:11 PM
 
Location: "Chicago"
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The question isn't the acting on pedophilic urges - but the origin of them. If pedophilia is an inborn trait - than prosecuting someone for acting on them is wrong. You are being hateful and judgmental of something that to them is natural. Pedophiles should have civil rights if it is an inborn trait.

Now - if you don't think so - and believe that pedophiles are predators who choose their lifestyle - then you must apply the same standard to other sexual "orientations" - which would really be preferences.

So - which is it? Is pedophilia an "orientation" or a preference?
Since you seem so fascinated by the subject, why don't you go over to the Relationships forum and talk about pedophilia in every other thread. See how far your act will go over there.
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Since you seem so fascinated by the subject, why don't you go over to the Relationships forum and talk about pedophilia in every other thread. See how far your act will go over there.
Those folks would make short work of him.
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Tell that to homosexuals that go after young boys. Oh , it happens quite often.
No pedophiles go after young boys.

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pe·do·phile

   [pee-duh-fahyl] Show IPA
noun Psychiatry . an adult who is sexually attracted to young children.
It has nothing to do with who one is attracted to in an adult partner.

More female children are sexually molested by males than male children are.
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Alcoholism is hereditary, and we prosecute those who drive while intoxicated.
Alcoholism is not conclusively known to be hereditary - there is much controversy over that particular theory - not a good analogy.
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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No pedophiles go after young boys.



It has nothing to do with who one is attracted to in an adult partner.
Homosexuality refers to sexual activity within the same gender - age has nothing to do with it - therefore a pedophile who is attracted to male children is a homosexual pedophile.
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:57 PM
 
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Homosexuality refers to sexual activity within the same gender - age has nothing to do with it - therefore a pedophile who is attracted to male children is a homosexual pedophile.
No, homosexuality refers to sexual attraction to someone of the same sex.
Heterosexuality refers to sexual attraction to someone of the opposite sex.
Pedophilia refers to someone sexually attracted to pre pubescent children.

And as for the genetic link to alcoholism:
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Previous research has implicated the brain’s opioid system in the development of alcohol-use disorders. The mu-opioid receptor, which is encoded by the OPRM1 gene, is the primary site of action for opiates with high abuse potential, such as opium and heroin, and may also contribute to the effects of non-opioid drugs, such as cocaine and alcohol. Findings published in the December issue of Alcoholism: Clinical & Experimental Research indicate that individuals with the G variant of the A118 polymorphism of the OPRM1 gene have greater subjective feelings to alcohol’s effects as well as a greater likelihood of a family history of alcohol-use disorders.
Evidence for Genetic Link to Alcoholism | World of Psychology
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Old 06-15-2012, 06:19 PM
 
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I think we're still evolving towards recognizing homophobia as wrong.
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Old 06-15-2012, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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I think we're still evolving towards recognizing homophobia as wrong.
you are living in an alternate reality.
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Old 06-15-2012, 07:49 PM
 
Location: "Chicago"
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Homosexuality refers to sexual activity within the same gender - age has nothing to do with it - therefore a pedophile who is attracted to male children is a homosexual pedophile.
Is forever linking homosexuality with pedophilia the only page in your playbook? Try something new for a change.
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Old 06-15-2012, 08:35 PM
 
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It's not like pedophiles or homosexuals are breaking the law through thought crimes. So they can both think what they want without getting arrested. I'm not sure there are pedophile rights groups, but there is a difference between two consenting adults having sex, which isn't a crime, and child molestation, which is a crime. Whether or not something is a natural urge doesn't determine whether something is illegal or not. Remember also that we are not debating whether we should legalize homosexuality or homosexual sex, only the right of this legal couple pairing to get married.

One man and one woman marriages are what we define as marriage now, just as one man and one woman of the same race were what we defined marriage as before, and one man and however many women you want is what was defined as marriage before that. The definition we have of marriage in the U.S. is relatively recent since interracial marriage only became legal in all states in 1967. The definition of a marriage is made by the society you live in.

Racism and slavery were also supported on the basis of religion in the past, but this argument is very uncommon today. Although, I have met Christians who use the Tower of Babel story to explain how God wanted all the races to live separately. I can also find much more support for slavery in the Bible, the New and Old Testament, than I can for 1 man/1 woman marriages.

In short, I do believe it is interesting to compare racism and the bans on interracial marriages before 1967 with the hate expressed towards homosexuals and the bans on gay marriage nowadays. The most ironic comparison is the percent of the African-American population that reject the idea of gay marriage. I have even met interracial married couples (black/white) who were as against gay marriage as anyone I've ever met. The black wife even went on a rant about how wrong it was for homosexuals to be couples and that it is sad that our society is accepting this. She wished it were like the old days when everyone saw this as a sin. I just raised an eyebrow and looked at her.

In the future, hating homosexuals or gay marriage will be out of fashion just as racism is now. However, the hate will always be there and it will be implied, much as racism is now. What runs even deeper in our core is the tendency for humans to distrust and even hate things that are different from us. I don't believe this will ever fully change.
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