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Old 06-09-2012, 11:57 AM
 
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So if all the electricity is going to power the cars what will power the lights? Or do we go back to whaling? Or is the government gonna subsidize a 2 million dollar windmill to hoist up in all our backyards too?
If someone has proposed the complete elimination of the use of fossil fuels in our lifetime it`s news to me.
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Old 06-09-2012, 12:01 PM
 
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If I wanted a hybrid I would buy the Toyota. If I want a pick up truck I'll buy a Chevy.
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Old 06-09-2012, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Leadville, CO
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I'm happy with my Jeep's high-20s mpg. Got it over 30 once. Although I feel like its CV transmission hurts its fuel economy a little.

I'm glad Chevy is making good stuff, but really, 38 miles on electric? It's 2012, we put a man on the moon in the 60s... Come on now.
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Old 06-09-2012, 12:13 PM
 
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I'm happy with my Jeep's high-20s mpg. Got it over 30 once. Although I feel like its CV transmission hurts its fuel economy a little.

I'm glad Chevy is making good stuff, but really, 38 miles on electric? It's 2012, we put a man on the moon in the 60s... Come on now.
The CVT is the only reason you are pushing 30mpg with that Jeep. CVT is more efficient that a manual 5 speed.
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Old 06-09-2012, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Leadville, CO
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The CVT is the only reason you are pushing 30mpg with that Jeep. CVT is more efficient that a manual 5 speed.
That's what I thought at first too, but there seems to be a lot of conflicting data. I definitely believe it's true for flat roads though. In the mountains it gets a little iffy since there are no gears to shift into, just higher RPM's.

It's easy to kill a CVT's fuel economy though. The RPM needle fluctuates a lot more easily than in an automatic or manual transmission.. nobody seems to get that. Went on a trip with a friend once and when it was his turn to drive - "Wow the CVT is going crazy trying to settle on an RPM value." Jeez. Doing it wrong!
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Old 06-09-2012, 12:23 PM
 
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That's what I thought at first too, but there seems to be a lot of conflicting data. I definitely believe it's true for flat roads though. In the mountains it gets a little iffy since there are no gears to shift into, just higher RPM's.

It's easy to kill a CVT's fuel economy though. The RPM needle fluctuates a lot more easily than in an automatic or manual transmission.. nobody seems to get that. Went on a trip with a friend once and when it was his turn to drive - "Wow the CVT is going crazy trying to settle on an RPM value." Me: You're doing it wrong, get out!
I have not tried the mountains yet with my CVT powered car. I see your point, I would imagine those rpms really rev.
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Old 06-09-2012, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Leadville, CO
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I have not tried the mountains yet with my CVT powered car. I see your point, I would imagine those rpms really rev.
There is an upside though. If yours is anything like mine, it will engine brake itself without raising the RPM's on downgrades.
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Old 06-10-2012, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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The Volt's price tag simply precludes it ever becoming an everyday commuter car, and I do agree that the subsidies/rebates/bribes/are pointless.
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Old 06-10-2012, 07:54 PM
 
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It appears the new Chevy Volt will get 38 miles on a full 10.5 hour charge in the new model instead of the outdated 35 miles per charge before. Whew that sets my mind at ease. Global warming should be a problem no more.

That 250K subsidy per car is well spent after all it appears.

Extended range electric Chevy Volt gets electric range extended to 38 miles | Fox News

Hey....I can fill up my gas tank and not have to RECHARGE after the 38th mile!

Um jus' sayin'.............
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Old 06-10-2012, 07:59 PM
 
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I'm happy with my Jeep's high-20s mpg. Got it over 30 once. Although I feel like its CV transmission hurts its fuel economy a little.

I'm glad Chevy is making good stuff, but really, 38 miles on electric? It's 2012, we put a man on the moon in the 60s... Come on now.


But we didn't put him on the moon with an electrical rocket!

We left a huuuuuge carbon foot print at the cape!!

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