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Old 06-14-2012, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Originally Posted by roysoldboy View Post
When will you and Obama make your attempt to make sure that all of us make about the same amount of money so all of us can pay the same taxes.
Was this in your dreams last night, or being spoken by a media loudmouth you couldn't trust more?
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:29 PM
 
Location: the Beaver State
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Originally Posted by irishvanguard View Post
Yeah, hundreds of dollars in cigarettes, beer, and lottery tickets are easy for them, but $10 is non-doable?

It's time for everyone to get invested in something other than their own narrow arses.
Especially this same old tired line that the poor spend all their welfare check on things that they don't need.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:30 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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So you say something stupid, you say something wrong, and I'm the clueless one?

So says the person who doesnt know that were spending more on education, not less
And fact were presented to you provening you wrong but you are insist that it is right despite the fact that more teachers are out of work than ever and the cost of secondary education is at an all time high. I guess when you struggle to pass recess making intelligent conversation tends to be rather difficult
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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You know, there is an entirely different angle of looking at this, other than throwing a pity party for the those 400, since buried in that factoid (if it is even true, which should not be automatically assumed as much) suggests that those "poor" 400 are actually taking in considerably more than the combined 50 Million or so that make up that bottom 50% earn collectively.

Now, calculating the average tax contribution of those 400 (16 Billion) equates to a cool 40,000,000 EACH in taxes. Now just imagine to yourself just how much money you would need to have to even be capable of paying 40 Million in taxes in one year, or owe that much, given that it's been well documented that the extremely wealthy actually pay less in percentage of total income than their flipping secretaries pay?

So the devil here is being totally ignored .... it's not about how much those 400 pay in taxes, but how much more those tiny few bring in, compared to the 10's of Millions that are struggling to survive and pay their electric bill and still buy food.

Secondly, the premise itself flies in the face of so many other claims that the bottom 50% pay no taxes at all .... yet this knucklehead says they paid 19.5 Billion in the illustration of his point. So there seems to be a big disconnect here ...

But I tell you ... we as a society are on the verge of loosing our collective sanity when we buy into this idiotic notion of pitying the kings and queens and princes and princesses of the world, and decrying the poor as not contributing their "fair share", while conveniently ignoring the reality that those 400 most wealthy financial royalty are reaping OBSCENELY UNFAIR proportions of the overall wealth of the nation, on the backs of those no payers who have virtually nothing left over after attending to basic needs.

It brings that saying "Let them eat cake" to an entirely new level of depravity when those chants begin coming from the trained sheep who have nothing but traces of cake around their own woolly mouths, instead of champagne and caviar.
Is this a new way of talking about redistributing the wealth so the very poor can stand on the same ground that the wealth stand on? It sure sounds like it.



Do you not understand who pays for jobs for that lower end, indeed if they are willing to work? It is pretty obvious that those wealthy people you "hate" don't run small businesses but once we get started toward all that redistribution of wealth to keep those people from getting that OBSCENELY UNFAIR portion of the overall wealth how long will it be before we have to drop down to this "rich" small business people?
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:41 PM
 
Location: the Beaver State
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Originally Posted by steven_h View Post
All these fees are for ONE (1) crossing of a bridge. Privatize them and watch the maintenance go up and prices come down!!!

To believe ANYTHING is going to be cheaper, or better, or more abundant, from the government is absloute ignorance.


Did you even know you had reached that level of it?
I'm trying to figure out what level you're reached. A Corporations entire purpose is to maximize profits and minimize costs. I can not believe that you really believe that prices for a toll road, if privatized, would go down. And that it would be maintained more often.

I have never worked for a large company that doesn't do everything it can to maximize profits for the Shareholders by cutting costs, skimping corners and charging as much as the market will bear for their products. "Oh you need an Ink Pen, well that has to be approved by the VP of the company." In the meantime the CEO gets a huge bonus that is higher then the yearly budget of my entire division.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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If a zillionaire decides to leave the country or even send his money to an offshore tax haven I would declare him outlaw and cancel his citizenship. He pays no taxes, he gets no protection.
My God, Greg do you not see what you just said. If the man does not pay taxes he gets no protection. How about the millions who don't pay taxes from the bottom. Sorry, but I don't think that socialists make much sense most of the time.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Originally Posted by mmmjv View Post
People who don't make enough money aren't supposed to pay income taxes.

Hey I have an idea, how about we increase wages? Then more people would be at pay income taxes level
Sure, increase wages? Now stop and look at who pays those wages and cut their taxes to allow them to make some money.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:45 PM
 
Location: the Beaver State
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Liberals don't debate they read talking points, then they whine, and resort to name-calling, are incapable of staying focused, and often times they lie their way onto his show, and Mark kicks them off for wasting his time.
Maybe in the real world. But here on these forums it's mostly the Conservatives who are doing this.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Was this in your dreams last night, or being spoken by a media loudmouth you couldn't trust more?
You really don't have any idea what is meant when socialists talk about redistribution of wealth, do you?
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:59 PM
 
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The top 8,180 received 4.2% of total taxable income or $204.322 billion. They paid 26.3% of taxable income 0r $53.790 billion.

Those with incomes between $100,000 - $200,000 (13.37 million returns) earned $1.3 trillion of taxable income (26.7% of total taxable income) and paid 24.5% of total income taxes ($212.290 billion).
Says who? The criminals themselves? Oh yeah .. we always get the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth in our reporting received from our trustworthy folks in government.

And how does that jibe with the reports that most major corporations pay no income tax at all ... while claiming that it's the oppressive tax laws that FORCE them to move operations offshore?
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