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Old 06-13-2012, 08:44 PM
 
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My employer does not make much more than I do. Certainly not 5000 times more. I work for a socialist type of medical system which has made it the best in the world!
Man, it would suck to know that if I work hard and advance, I wont be rewarded.. But hey, whatever floats your boat..
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Becuz "their" motivated. Becuz "their" is good reason to believe that it is worth paying some taxes in, as long as "their" getting to keep around 1/2 of "their" money and "their" not subjected to punitive, envious taxation.

Becuz "their" more oriented to do something other than waiting on "their" lottery ticket to score a win, as Democrats are wont to do.
Being a grammar smartass? I'll have my phone's auto correct tinkered with again, just for you, seeing you are Hung up on typos.

They would not succeed every time. If everyone started out inghettoland, at the same level and did NOT have a single helping hand I suggest that you uber wealthy hero would fail much more often than the current inhabitants.

MSNBC is about to show Mittens learning what a donut is, yeah, he has the "tools" to start out on the mean streets.
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:45 PM
 
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Won't be the government, it will be the wealthy if everything becomes privatized and you are charged an arm and a leg for water, road use, and all other necessities of life.
Oooh the fear mongering is utterly asstounding.. No seriously, say that again so I can laugh at you even more.
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:46 PM
 
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I got news for ya. Unless you are in that group of 400, expect to become poor in the next 10 years if the income disparity continues on the current trajectory.
The more government involvement we have, the more income disparity which exists. Why is that shocking to you and why do you want more of it?
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Man, it would suck to know that if I work hard and advance, I wont be rewarded.. But hey, whatever floats your boat..
You'd just be in the same boat as most Americans, a victim of the debt trap, running on a treadmill getting nowhere fast.
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:48 PM
 
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You'd just be in the same boat as most Americans, a victim of the debt trap, running on a treadmill getting nowhere fast.
You have anything to back that up? Of course not.
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:55 PM
 
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Being a grammar smartass? :
No, just lovin the konversation with Karl. It is kritical to debate the inkome tax issue rather than the inkome issue. There is no way that our tax kollection system should be further made to be a wealth redistribution system. Why would you think that it should be used this way? If you krank down hard enough on the kapitalists, the kapital will go kaput.
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Won't be the government, it will be the wealthy if everything becomes privatized and you are charged an arm and a leg for water, road use, and all other necessities of life.
GAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Utilities are PRIVATIZED

Road use? Let's talk about state run roads, shall we:

Car (no tow)12$7.50$9.50-$12.00
Motorcycle (no tow)112$6.50$8.50-$11.00
E-ZPass Discount Plans
Carpool Plan, 3 or more people1,112$3.50 $3.50--
Green Pass-Low Emission Vehicle12$4.00 $9.50--
Staten Island Bridges Plan1,112$4.75$4.75--
Other vehicles & combinations
Car or motorcycle with single-wheel tow; recreational vehicle (RV) each additional single-wheel axle $14.00 $6.50 $16.00 $6.50 -$22.00 $10.00
Dual rear wheel vehicles (includes 2-axle RVs)22$18.00 $20.00 $15.00 $26.00
Trucks, or towing combinations33$27.00 $30.00 $22.50 $39.00
Trucks, or towing combinations44$36.00 $40.00 $30.00 $52.00 Trucks, or towing combinations55$45.00 $50.00 $37.50 $65.00
Trucks, or towing combinations each additional axle over 6 66+$54.00 $9.00$60.00 $10.00 $45.00 $7.50$78.00 $13.00
Buses, minibuses, and any two or more axle vehicle designed with a seating capacity of ten or more persons, including the driver.8 or 92+$10.00 $10.00 -$20.00

All these fees are for ONE (1) crossing of a bridge. Privatize them and watch the maintenance go up and prices come down!!!

To believe ANYTHING is going to be cheaper, or better, or more abundant, from the government is absloute ignorance.


Did you even know you had reached that level of it?
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:58 PM
 
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I got news for ya. Unless you are in that group of 400, expect to become poor in the next 10 years if the income disparity continues on the current trajectory.
The current trajectory is tax cuts expiring for everyone, the payroll tax going back to what it should have always been and the AMT fix disappearing along with massive cuts in Medicare payments and entitlements along with the Federal Government. Right now that's what you're in store for unless Obama and Co. change that course and anything they do that doesn't go in that direction just as much or even more will only prolong the agony. Don't even think he's going to do anything productive with more debt added to the equation through his newest pivot point of focusing on jobs.

Anyways...

You're going to be poor no matter what you do. You can't possible tax enough rich people to pay for your liberal wet-dreams.

If you took all of everyone's cash assets, meaning everyone from $0 net worth to $20+ million, you'd still have a $300 billion deficit for that year and the next year you'd be SOL.

If you took all the cash assets of those worth $2 million or more you would only get $984 billion. The next year you'd be SOL.

Let's say you got a wild hair and liquidated the people worth $2 million or more completely then you'd only get enough to cover the projected Obama deficits if he doesn't let all of the tax cuts expire for everyone and the AMT isn't adjust for annual inflation.

That's $12.361 trillion by the way.

Then of course that doesn't account for the fiscal short comings in Social Security, Medicare, Federal and State Pensions, etc.

That doesn't include the effects of globalization. Let's hope that comes to a screeching halt.

Would you like some Vaseline™ with this assessment? (Too bad, we can't afford it)
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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You have anything to back that up? Of course not.
You that detached from the real world? We know with all those businesses you have and all those homes you have so little time to see how the poor smuck live, lol.
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