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Old 06-20-2012, 04:27 AM
 
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Lol..and what a find it was.

But it will be interesting to see how sexually "confused" kids continue to be as a greater number are taken out of public schools and instead are homeschooled. I think we will see an even larger polarization of values between adopted children of homeschooled homosexual couples/advocates of homosexual rights and the homeschooled children of heterosexual/Islamic/Christian couples who will instill more traditional values into their children.
You mean like THIS...



Home schooled - YouTube

and THIS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH_wPUVlJ38



VERSUS this?


From the American Psychological Association - Amicus Briefs on Gay and Lesbian Parenting.


The results of some studies suggest that lesbian mothers' and gay fathers' parenting skills may be superior to those of matched heterosexual couples. For instance, Flaks, Fischer, Masterpasqua, and Joseph (1995) reported that lesbian couples' parenting awareness skills were stronger than those of heterosexual couples. This was attributed to greater parenting awareness among lesbian nonbiological mothers than among heterosexual fathers. In one study, Brewaeys and her colleagues (1997) likewise reported more favorable patterns of parent-child interaction among lesbian as compared to heterosexual parents, but in another, they found greater similarities (Vanfraussen, Ponjaert-Kristoffersen, & Brewaeys, 2003).



Study: Children of Lesbians May Do Better Than Their Peers

The authors found that children raised by lesbian mothers — whether the mother was partnered or single — scored very similarly to children raised by heterosexual parents on measures of development and social behavior.

These findings were expected, the authors said; however, they were surprised to discover that children in lesbian homes scored higher than kids in straight families on some psychological measures of self-esteem and confidence, did better academically and were less likely to have behavioral problems, such as rule-breaking and aggression.


Read more: Kids with Lesbian Parents May Do Better Than Their Peers
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Old 06-20-2012, 08:20 AM
 
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You mean like THIS...



Home schooled - YouTube

and THIS



Radical Fundamentalist Christian Home-Schooling - YouTube



VERSUS this?


From the American Psychological Association - Amicus Briefs on Gay and Lesbian Parenting.


The results of some studies suggest that lesbian mothers' and gay fathers' parenting skills may be superior to those of matched heterosexual couples. For instance, Flaks, Fischer, Masterpasqua, and Joseph (1995) reported that lesbian couples' parenting awareness skills were stronger than those of heterosexual couples. This was attributed to greater parenting awareness among lesbian nonbiological mothers than among heterosexual fathers. In one study, Brewaeys and her colleagues (1997) likewise reported more favorable patterns of parent-child interaction among lesbian as compared to heterosexual parents, but in another, they found greater similarities (Vanfraussen, Ponjaert-Kristoffersen, & Brewaeys, 2003).



Study: Children of Lesbians May Do Better Than Their Peers

The authors found that children raised by lesbian mothers — whether the mother was partnered or single — scored very similarly to children raised by heterosexual parents on measures of development and social behavior.

These findings were expected, the authors said; however, they were surprised to discover that children in lesbian homes scored higher than kids in straight families on some psychological measures of self-esteem and confidence, did better academically and were less likely to have behavioral problems, such as rule-breaking and aggression.


Read more: Kids with Lesbian Parents May Do Better Than Their Peers
I cant listen to the video with sound right now, but are those supposed to be homeschooled children of homosexuals or heterosexuals? And if so, what does any of this have to do with the difference between philosophies espoused by homosexuals and gay rights advocates, and those espoused by the vast majority of Islam/Christianity/Heterosexual Traditionalists?

Are you saying that these stock links to studies suggest there is no difference between the philosophies that most individuals in those religious institutions and the philosophies that homosexual advocates subscribe to? That seems a bit naive. By most accounts, people are highly influenced by their parents values, to the extent that some even feel disappointed, and fall into a state of depression when they feel their sexual orientation doesnt meet the expectations established by their parents' existing value system.

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Old 06-21-2012, 04:31 AM
 
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I cant listen to the video with sound right now, but are those supposed to be homeschooled children of homosexuals or heterosexuals? And if so, what does any of this have to do with the difference between philosophies espoused by homosexuals and gay rights advocates, and those espoused by the vast majority of Islam/Christianity/Heterosexual Traditionalists?

Are you saying that these stock links to studies suggest there is no difference between the philosophies that most individuals in those religious institutions and the philosophies that homosexual advocates subscribe to? That seems a bit naive. By most accounts, people are highly influenced by their parents values, to the extent that some even feel disappointed, and fall into a state of depression when they feel their sexual orientation doesnt meet the expectations established by their parents' existing value system.
The first video is a parody of fundametalist religious homeschooled kids. The second video is a real video of a religious fundamentalist mother 'homeschooling' her son. It's scary to see how these people indoctrinate their children or what they 'teach' their children as 'science'.

You are nuts if you think that gay and lesbian parents want their children to be gay or would 'expect' their children to be gay. They would know it's not a 'choice' or anything they can 'influence' anyway. However religious fundamentalists certainly expect their chidren to be straight and are likely to disown their children if they are gay.

What makes you think the links I posted are 'stock' links? I took the time to research the topic and find out what the peer-reviewed published research actually says - Unlike quite a few other posters who post unsupported, uninformed personal opinions, or just copy and paste bigoted nonsense from religious-based propaganda websites without checking the accuracy of their sources.

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Old 06-21-2012, 04:53 AM
 
Location: California
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Default Middle-School Boys Self -- um -- "Administer" "Gay Test" During English Class

Well looking on the bright side maybe these young men will grow up to have a firm handshake and a good grip on life.
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:43 PM
 
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The first video is a parody of fundametalist religious homeschooled kids. The second video is a real video of a religious fundamentalist mother 'homeschooling' her son. It's scary to see how these people indoctrinate their children or what they 'teach' their children as 'science'.

You are nuts if you think that gay and lesbian parents want their children to be gay or would 'expect' their children to be gay. They would know it's not a 'choice' or anything they can 'influence' anyway. However religious fundamentalists certainly expect their chidren to be straight and are likely to disown their children if they are gay.
Nah, both gay rights activists and religious fanatics impress their worldviews upon their children and to varying degrees. Just a fact of life that can be found in any group which clings to its respective dogma and theory with such conviction. Its not intrinsically good or bad... it just is ...But burying your head in the sand doesnt
change that reality either.

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What makes you think the links I posted are 'stock' links? I took the time to research the topic and find out what the peer-reviewed published research actually says - Unlike quite a few other posters who post unsupported, uninformed personal opinions, or just copy and paste bigoted nonsense from religious-based propaganda websites without checking the accuracy of their sources.
coulda fooled me...lol J/k

but yeah, i figured those studies had come from one of those "peer reviewed"/members only, ABc acronymn websites. The typical MO for most who pride themselves on their "research", is to: Log in, do a "search" in a database full of tautological theory, and groupthink --- ahem, -- I mean "Totally Official, Peer Reviewed, ABC Association, Scientific, Findings bah bah bah" and voila...sit back and bask in all that research.

Not knocking it, because if its good enough for you and the peer review groupthink theorists, then its good enough for the purposes of remedial discussion on this little dog and pony show of a website we're engaged in i guess. The religious loons do the same thing with the Koran/Bible/Torah on here
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:58 PM
 
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Kids today are frickin' weird...
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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I sure didn't need no "test" to tell me I was gay.
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:36 AM
 
Location: Striving for Avalon
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The real shocker here are parents who expect their middle school children to use 3/4G phones responsibly.

The obsession with being gay, some titillating graphic, and group masturbation are venerable American traditions.
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:47 AM
 
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i sure didn't need no "test" to tell me i was gay.
lmbo.
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