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Old 06-29-2012, 11:51 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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DERP...

Anyway, the states are free to implement their own systems if they achieve the same baseline coverage of their residents. See the Vermont attempt at single payer as an example. But it is hilarious that Jindal is pretending to make a principled stance on taking federal money when his state is one of the biggest receivers of federal funds in the Union.
No such requirement. The states can simply opt out of it, per the SCOTUS. The only federal funds they'll lose were those directed at obamatax anyways.
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:54 AM
 
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one other thing, the states dont have to implement ANYTHING regarding obamacare until 2014 anyway.
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:55 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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By not accepting, a State is no worse, or no better than it was before.

More for the States that really need it, right?


Just think if insurance was allowed to cross state lines... The commerce clause would have its grubby hands all over our healthcare.
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Upstate NY!
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Roberts gave a way to destroy obamacare indirectly: if enough states opt out it won't work.
Agreed...I think he knew EXACTLY what he was doing with his decision!
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Just wait until you see the millions who'll leave out the exact amount they would have to pay for the Obama tax. What is the IRS going to do? Go after all of them?
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Texas
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No such requirement. The states can simply opt out of it, per the SCOTUS. The only federal funds they'll lose were those directed at obamatax anyways.
That's not exactly true. That only applies to the Medicaid part, not to the other parts, which the federal government can enforce directly.
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:58 AM
 
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No such requirement. The states can simply opt out of it, per the SCOTUS. The only federal funds they'll lose were those directed at obamatax anyways.
Really, the law no longer requires baseline coverage? So, LA and some other states are going to effectively screw over their working and middle class residents because of of politics while continuing to be a HUGE burden on the Medicaid roles.

Stay classy!
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Texas
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one other thing, the states dont have to implement ANYTHING regarding obamacare until 2014 anyway.
Yes, which is why states should be waiting until after the election to see exactly who is president and who controls Congress. Right now that is still up in the air and "ObamaCare's" fate will be determined by the elections.
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:02 PM
 
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If it's repealed he will have saved his state a whole lot of money. I would imagine many states are going to be hesitant about going full throttle ahead implementing this until they know what the results of the election are. That's just being sensible .
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Also individuals can protest and not pay the tax on a product they don't want. After all the word illegal has no meaning today.
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