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Obama is unlikely to win the election with his approval in the mid 40's given that no incumbent president running for re-election since Carter in 1980 has overperformed his approval rating in terms of the percentage of the vote he received (I still think Romney's chances are about 50/50 and Obama's chances are also, of course, about 50/50 for whatever reason...but you Obama supporters seem to be clueless about this reality). Even Democrats are now starting to realize Obama could lose. This is from the liberals' beloved HuffingtonPost: Dems: Obama Could Lose, Donors Better Get Moving
And, the GOP is very likely to have 50 senators even if Obama wins the election (and all it takes is 51 OR 50 plus a Republican VP to pass legislation repealing it using the reconciliation process...Dems could not filibuster), not that it would matter if Obama won the election though. And chances are virtually none for the Democrats to take back the House. And, if Romney is elected, even if Democrats were to control the House and/or Senate - the law provides that the president can simply issue waivers to states - and Romney has said that he would simply issue waivers on his first day in office to all 50 states.
So what about the uninsured? What plan does romney have for them?
And he'll lose federal funding for his fine state.
Dumb choice, but his to make.
Wrong -- but if Obama decides to withhold all federal funding, then no one in Lousiana should be required to pay any federal income tax. It's time the states take a stand for their citizens.
Wrong -- but if Obama decides to withhold all federal funding, then no one in Lousiana should be required to pay any federal income tax. It's time the states take a stand for their citizens.
Ha Ha, funny... The last states that tried standing up to the federal government didn't turn out to well...
Ha Ha, funny... The last states that tried standing up to the federal government didn't turn out to well...
Oh no, you are very wrong. States like California and Illiniois are opting out of the federal drug laws and getting by with doing that. And states like California have opted out of the federal immigration laws, and harbor illegals.
If a state can opt out of one law for whatever reason, then other states should have the same option to opt out of laws that don't suit them. Can't have it both ways you know.
My healthcare plan is the one provided by my employer.
Now answer one for me - why should the middle class pay for healthcare for those that DON'T pay?
They have been paying this for many many years...it's called medicaid and it been around for ages. It''s not new for Obamacare.
What's new for Obamacare is the 'exchanges'. These allow regular folks to PURCHASE health insurance without having to rely on their employer for this. Someone that is 62 and retired and has enough money where they don't need to work. But they can't get medicare until 65. They'll pick a health plan from the exchange, sign up for it and then pay the monthly premium. It similar to having a list of health plans every year like your employer lets you choose from. But there will be many more choices.
The states are supposed to set up these exchanges and this is separate from the medicaid expansion issue that was ruled by SCOTUS where states can opt out of medicaid expansion. If the states don't set up the exchanges, the feds will step in and offer this for the state's residents las per current. Not sure if the feds charge the states for this but likely they charge the states.
Basically the exchanges are lists of health insurance plans and costs and ways for you to sign up and then you get billed and you pay the premium.
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What are you talking about? Bobby Jindal is clearly differentiating himself and a Rubio pick will ensure Florida goes GOP...
NOT. Florida does not really give a hoot about Rubio. He' too new and really hasn't done anything. He just talks fast and sounds like he is reading. He goes on national TV shows. He's not well liked in the state like some former FL politicians. He won the senate with 49% of vote less than 2 years ago. that whole time he has been groomed for VP and treated like the next big thing just because he is young and dashing and hispanic. He'll fall flat on his face and will ensure a landside win for Obama. He's about as smart a VP choice as Palin was. All talk, no experience, good attack dog, looks nice. Nothing more. Oh, Palin is a much more charismatic speaker than Rubio. He cannot energize and audience...he puts them to sleep.
They have been paying this for many many years...it's called medicaid and it been around for ages. It''s not new for Obamacare.
What's new for Obamacare is the 'exchanges'. These allow regular folks to PURCHASE health insurance without having to rely on their employer for this. Someone that is 62 and retired and has enough money where they don't need to work. But they can't get medicare until 65. They'll pick a health plan from the exchange, sign up for it and then pay the monthly premium. It similar to having a list of health plans every year like your employer lets you choose from. But there will be many more choices.
Actually, you left out the part that was just struck down by the Supreme Court. Obamacare would grossly inflate the Medicaid system. This would amount to an additional 15 million on this expanded Medicaid. In other words, we, as the taxpayers, would be paying for an additional 15 million people to have free healthcare.
For the remaining people, you have the exchanges. Well, that would be partially paid through gov't subsidies depending on income level, which we, the taxpayers, would also pay for. That's what those exchanges entail, in case you didn't get the full truth from Obama and didn't know.
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