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That is exactly what I mean by Obama having to wear these comments, no matter what he said before or after. Every politician, including Obama, is going to have their comments scrutinized. Romney is seizing an opportunity just as Obama would and already has done. The Obama campaign is creating ads that don't tell the whole story. For example, on this very issue, the Obama campaign is putting out ads saying that Romney is agreeing with what Obama said--saw one this morning. No one in America can disagree with everything Obama says or everything Romney says if they are intellectually honest with themselves. But to say in the ad that Romney is misquoting or misrepresenting what Obama said is not right. I guess we are agreeing to disagree.
Don't you think that context matters?
This out of context quotation is done all the time to mislead. It was done at the run up to the Iraq War, when proponents quoted Ted Kennedy as saying:
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
From that, you would get the impression that Kennedy's belief was that Hussein developed WMD.
That impression is reversed when you read his following sentence:
"Our intelligence community is also deeply concerned about the acquisition of such weapons by Iran, North Korea, Libya, Syria and other nations. But information from the intelligence community over the past six months does not point to Iraq as an imminent threat to the United States or a major proliferator of weapons of mass destruction."
At what point did you stop owing? Was it at the point that you were wounded? Do others who were wounded also think they owe no more to fund their government? Who gets to decide, you? Do we all get to decide for ourselves when we no longer owe anything?
Good thing you never stopped paying taxes because if you did, they'd throw you in the pokey.
I owe taxes on taxable items. I owe taxes like well I was going to say anyone else, but that wouldn't be true. We all know about 50% of us dont have to pay any fed. They owe. Ipay my share I dont owe. Least of all I dont owe Obama, the Democrats or the Republicans a damn thing. I don't owe my local councilman, mayor or any other politicians.
Lastly I dont owe Obama a free pass for his latest of many gaffs where he actually let slip how he really feels. Just like he did when he called those who serve society's misfits, the outcasts who have no other choice.
Small town americans cling to their guns and religion.
We aint from Chicago so I guess we aint goodnuff for Obama.
You may call it as you please, but Soviet Union was a state capitalist country since inception. Not only opposition considered it as such, but even Lenin himself - and that was before Stalin adopted extreme state capitalist course.
If you dig into Soviet economic system, you'll see clearly that it was capitalist - just a bit different from normal capitalism.
Thanks a lot, but keep your chocolate turn-coat yourself I don't believe in words - otherwise I'd praise Putin, who sounds better than Obama, despite being a conservative.
Actually I think I understand. It might well be said thatObummer is striving for a state capitalist country, wherein the stat retains the majority of any profits, if any ,and doles it out to the citizenry each according to his needs and proudly proclaims the credit for successes, disguises the failures, has an active press that generally concedes to the state. As I have stated before present day USA under the liberal media and demorat control closely resembles the 1970s soviet union. Our union leaders, public school academic leadership, liberal media a 50 percent taker sheeple template fairly well. What do you think?
As far as Obamas statement in question goes. If the people of America do not understand the man now they never will. It becomes a question of ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you country can do for me, buy me a refrigerator, I'll vote for that guy even if it means that guy will eventually ration electricity.
You want to continue this. Okay. Using your example below, the impression is in fact not reversed, and your own example proves my point. I'm not sure how you are reading it, but what Kennedy is saying is that indeed Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction, but it's not a significant consequence to the US at that time. To say it a different way, Kennedy did not reverse his statement. He's explaining it further that the net effect of Hussein's efforts are a minimum threat to the US. How could that be taken out of context, and do you really read that as saying that Kennedy does not believe Hussein was seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction?
There's a distinct difference between a statement being taken out of context and leaving out the further explanation of a statement. Obama did not further explain his now controversial statement.
To clarify, look at Obama's statement in its entirety. The controversial statement is stuck in there in the middle, and then Obama goes back to discussing that we're all in this together, etc., and didn't support his statement, tie it into his prior or following comments, didn't further explain, as your example shows below, and there's just no further discussion about it. And that is his choice to do. But it also is his responsibility to bear, and he is having to bear it now.
If you are really serious about context and truth in advertising, go to Fact Check and look at all the ads the Obama campaign has put out that "twists," "overreaches," and "does not tell the whole story,"
As thinking, analyzing, voting people, we have to be intellectually honest with ourselves. I'm not saying you are not. We just see things completely differently.
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Originally Posted by MTAtech
Don't you think that context matters?
This out of context quotation is done all the time to mislead. It was done at the run up to the Iraq War, when proponents quoted Ted Kennedy as saying:
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
From that, you would get the impression that Kennedy's belief was that Hussein developed WMD.
That impression is reversed when you read his following sentence:
"Our intelligence community is also deeply concerned about the acquisition of such weapons by Iran, North Korea, Libya, Syria and other nations. But information from the intelligence community over the past six months does not point to Iraq as an imminent threat to the United States or a major proliferator of weapons of mass destruction."
Context matters, not just the sound-byte.
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...and they were totally off the grid. In fact, there is no necessity for garbage collection because the trash just magically evaportes.
Whoa who collects my garbage? That would be a private hauler who then takes it to gasp a privately owned landfill.
Oh thats right the state granted the permit. The state also makes a killing in tax revenues from that landfill.
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I don't believe in words - otherwise I'd praise Putin, who sounds better than Obama, despite being a conservative.
