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Old 08-15-2012, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Paul Ryan's plan is to give the seniors the same type of system the members of Congress get now.
Someone sold you BS, and you fell in love with it. May be you deserve to eat it but spare the rest of us.
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:32 PM
 
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Someone sold you BS, and you fell in love with it. May be you deserve to eat it but spare the rest of us.
I LOVE how you fail to support your claim......
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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Someone sold you BS, and you fell in love with it. May be you deserve to eat it but spare the rest of us.
So why does the CBO say medicare runs out of money in 11 years Einstein? The plan to save Medicare is not just the voucher to help future seniors pay for healthcare, but creating a new system where there is competition from the private sector. To the socialists reading this: competition lowers costs.
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:41 PM
 
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In an Op-Ed piece in The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Ryan wrote, “Starting in 2022, new Medicare beneficiaries will be enrolled in the same kind of health-care program that members of Congress enjoy.”


He repeated that assertion on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on April 10, when he said, “For future generations, what we are proposing is a personalized Medicare, a Medicare system that works exactly like the health care I have as a member of Congress and federal employees have.”
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I LOVE how you fail to support your claim......
I made a claim? Nope. You did, and back it up with BS delivered to your taste.

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So why does the CBO say medicare runs out of money in 11 years Einstein? The plan to save Medicare is not just the voucher to help future seniors pay for healthcare, but creating a new system where there is competition from the private sector. To the socialists reading this: competition lowers costs.
Does it? Prove it. Or, else, shove your words from where they came from.
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:44 PM
 
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Is that another bogus Obama promise like "passing my Stimulus will result in 5.2% unemployment"?

And of COURSE robbing billions of dollars from it "extends it" .....in LIBERAL math that is.

Excuse me if I don't get fooled again.
That's what the Medicare trustees said.
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:52 PM
 
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I made a claim? Nope.

Yes, your CLAIM was that I was fed BS.

I backed-up my side by posting that Ryan himself said what I claimed he did.

I would venture to say that Ryan, who WROTE it and has been in Congress knows just a tad more than you do about his plan and how close it is to the same plan Congress gets.
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:52 PM
 
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With SS and Medicare running out of money how can people think Obamacare can last when we aren't forced to pay into it like we do with the now "broke" programs?

Congress has stolen money from the intended programs but now promises that they will fund Obamacare??? Really????
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:54 PM
 
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Yes, your CLAIM was that I was fed BS.

I backed-up my side by posting that Ryan himself said what I claimed he did.

When someone is a legend in their own mind they don't need to back up their opinions. You are priviledged to have them share their wisdom
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:59 PM
 
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So why does the CBO say medicare runs out of money in 11 years Einstein? The plan to save Medicare is not just the voucher to help future seniors pay for healthcare, but creating a new system where there is competition from the private sector. To the socialists reading this: competition lowers costs.
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Does it? Prove it. Or, else, shove your words from where they came from.

Medicare and Social Security Will Run Out Sooner Than Thought

ABC News' Tahman Bradley reports: The country's benefit programs for the elderly – Medicare and Social Security – will be exhausted sooner than thought due to the economic downturn, the Social Security and Medicare Boards of Trustees said today.


Medicare's Hospital Insurance Fund is projected to exhaust its funds in 2024, five years sooner than last year's estimate, and Social Security will be exhausted in 2036, a year earlier than previously thought, the trustees announced.



"Social Security and Medicare benefits are secure today, but reform will be needed so they will be there for current and future retirees," Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner told reporters at a Treasury Department news conference.


Geithner said the report underscores "the need to act sooner rather than later" to make reforms to entitlement programs.



"We should not wait for the Trust Funds to be exhausted to make the reforms necessary to protect our current and future retirees," he said.


The report also indicates that Social Security ran a deficit last year for the first time since 1983, and it's projected to run deficits going forward.


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Geitner is the guy that told Ryan that the Obama Administration had no plan to save them, but did know they didn't like Ryan's plan.
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