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Old 08-17-2012, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I am so glad that this seems to have become a jury nullification thread rather then a marijuana thread. Hopefully, American jurors will wake up - and exercise the power they have to judge not only the facts - but also the law.

See www.fija.org for more details.

Fulfill your duty - be a fully informed juror.
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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i wonder how much mula was donated by big pharma
Do the research - and tell us.

Me - I don't really care.

His overall contribution was enough to make the drug war not a major detraction.

We do need to end the war on drugs - and let us remember that the idea did not begin with President Reagan - he borrowed it.
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Let me guess, you are a Tea Party, small government, pro freedom person with a complete lack of any sense of irony?
Again, there has to be some laws (which liberals like to call "no freedom") or there would be anarchy.

For example, should people be "free" to riot? Is stopping a riot stopping "freedom?"
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Again, there has to be some laws (which liberals like to call "no freedom") or there would be anarchy.

For example, should people be "free" to riot? Is stopping a riot stopping "freedom?"
A riot if built on the proper platform - like the 1992 L.A. Riots may be callled a political protest.
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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The gateway drug argument is a definite fact, but nice try.
The potheads refuse to accept facts, though.
The gateway drug argument typically fails to take in all the factors, such as the drug dealers pushing the harder drugs, and lacing pot with cocaine and whatnot to get their customers hooked.

Therefore, the gateway drug argument is rather irrelevant to the discussion of pot.
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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The gateway drug argument typically fails to take in all the factors, such as the drug dealers pushing the harder drugs, and lacing pot with cocaine and whatnot to get their customers hooked.

Therefore, the gateway drug argument is rather irrelevant to the discussion of pot.
Shoot - the gateway drug tends to be marijuana - when it should be alcohol.

When I can identify and advocate against alcohol - it can be dangerous.
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Shoot - the gateway drug tends to be marijuana - when it should be alcohol.

When I can identify and advocate against alcohol - it can be dangerous.
The "gateway drug" argument is just an old leftover argument from the D.A.R.E. (or any other anti-drug) program (which I realise is still going on) where fearmongering was the way to get kids to not do drugs.

ANd hey, for me, it worked. Until I grew up and realised how full of crap most of the stuff they taught us in D.A.R.E. was. The only reason I don't touch pot is that it's illegal and as a father, I don't need to go to jail. But once it's legalized, I will probably partake in the drug again (however, not around my daughter, of course. My rule of "no drinking around her" will extend to pot.)
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:28 PM
 
Location: California
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I'm suspicious of the source who cannot provide a link to a local news source on this story, just second hand info.
Me too. Lovely little story but not a name in sight.
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:31 PM
 
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Doesn't happen too often. Not to say I advocate driving while stoned, but its not as dangerous as you think. And with your reasoning, why not outlaw alcohol? Even smaller amounts of alcohol are more dangerous while driving than marijuana.


Marijuana Users Are Safer Drivers Than Non-Marijuana Users, New Study Shows | Natural Solutions Radio
What reasoning would that be? That driving impaired by ANYTHING is a problem? I don't care what is more dangerous than the other.
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:33 PM
 
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I don't believe KUchief is advocating keeping pot illegal because of inebriated idiots, just trying to clarify the poster's postition.

Which I do agree with the above, drop the pot charge, keep the DUI charge.
You don't need to clarify anything for me.
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