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Old 08-20-2012, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Sorry, did I miss the part in the Constitution that says one must speak English to vote? That seems to be a strong view here that I have never heard in my life.
Well you do have to be proficient in English to become a citizen and only citizens can vote.
Hence..we'll assume here that citizens who vote all speak English.
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Old 08-20-2012, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Well you do have to be proficient in English to become a citizen and only citizens can vote.
Hence..we'll assume here that citizens who vote all speak English.
Not a valid assumption. All Alaskan Natives are US citizens, and speak more than 20 different languages. Approximately 14% of the Alaskan population speaks another language besides English. The Anchorage school district reported that the student body speaks 83 languages.

We resolved the problem during the 1990s by making English the official language in Alaska.
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Old 08-20-2012, 05:32 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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English needs to become the official language before we end up with a problem like Canada.
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Old 08-20-2012, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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The island is not allowed to vote
They're all legal US citizens and have been for over 100 years. Millions of them have moved to the mainland with New York being the largest concentration of them. Guess what? Most of them don't speak English especially if they recently moved to NY State. They are 100% legally entitled to vote as citizens.
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Old 08-20-2012, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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All Puerto Ricans learn English as a Second Language.
No, I've been there. Most of them couldn't speak or read English to save their lives. The main exception was vets and folks who spent a lot of time on the mainland before moving back.
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Old 08-20-2012, 05:55 PM
 
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Cultural ethnic cleansing.
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Old 08-20-2012, 06:41 PM
 
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They're all legal US citizens and have been for over 100 years. Millions of them have moved to the mainland with New York being the largest concentration of them. Guess what? Most of them don't speak English especially if they recently moved to NY State. They are 100% legally entitled to vote as citizens.
Ballots: English ONLY except Braille for blind people. If a Puerto Rican gets mad; he can go back to PR and stay there. Sheesh!
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Old 08-20-2012, 06:42 PM
 
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Cultural ethnic cleansing.
It's going the other way here in Arizona; we're working on chasing people who WON'T learn English out.
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Old 08-20-2012, 06:47 PM
 
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So what makes Spanish so special? Why mandate Spanish, but not French, Tagalog, Japanese, etc. Once you cater to the one language, are you not discriminating against all the other non-English languages? This whole thing could be stopped if they would have made English the official language long ago, and enforced it. Instead, politicians remembered they don't have spines.
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Old 08-20-2012, 07:10 PM
 
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So what makes Spanish so special? Why mandate Spanish, but not French, Tagalog, Japanese, etc. Once you cater to the one language, are you not discriminating against all the other non-English languages? This whole thing could be stopped if they would have made English the official language long ago, and enforced it. Instead, politicians remembered they don't have spines.
There are only about 40 million Hispanic citizens or legal immigrants in our country. There are about 315 million people in this country. That means that there are 275 million non-hispanics in this country. You ask a good question....why Spanish? I believe it is because of the number of illegal immigrants here who mostly hail from Hispanic countries and HIspanic citizens that refuse to assimilate to English even though they know how to speak it.

As for Puerto Ricans, Puerto Rico isn't even a state it is a territory and isn't on the mainland. On the mainland consisting of 50 states English is our adopted de facto national language. If Puerto Ricans move to the mainland then they should learn the language of the mainland and not be expected to be catered to in Spanish.
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