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Education doesn't always guarantee a job however. After I graduated, Bush cut all health care positions that I could have gotten at that time. I was stuck going back to my old profession which doesn't pay much. So someone needs to come up with something good! Let's hope whoever does get's into office before I die! LOL, LOL
Education doesn't always guarantee a job however. After I graduated, Bush cut all health care positions that I could have gotten at that time. I was stuck going back to my old profession which doesn't pay much. So someone needs to come up with something good! Let's hope whoever does get's into office before I die! LOL, LOL
I had a friend who graduated with an engineering degree back in the late 60's. When he graduated, he couldn't find anything in his career field. He worked anything he could get for a couple of years, and eventually got a job in his field. There are no guarantees in life. None of us are promised prosperity. We are offered the potential to create our prosperity.
I have thought for years that something like this had to happen instead of people just taking advantage of the system. A few thoughts though.
1-4 are all good and make sense. I do have a problem with number 5 though. (Not the Fraud that should stay)
The point of welfare is in many case to help the unemployed get back on their feet or those who are barely scraping by to help cover basic expenses. It is not that they do not have jobs but instead are making minimun wage and have to support a family. You would also have a problem of people refusing education because of personal situations or just the belief of their right to refuse a government program.
There are also areas in the country that are heavily depended on government welfare but dont have the industry to employ those who come out of the program you laid out.
I have thought for years that something like this had to happen instead of people just taking advantage of the system. A few thoughts though.
1-4 are all good and make sense. I do have a problem with number 5 though. (Not the Fraud that should stay)
The point of welfare is in many case to help the unemployed get back on their feet or those who are barely scraping by to help cover basic expenses. It is not that they do not have jobs but instead are making minimun wage and have to support a family. You would also have a problem of people refusing education because of personal situations or just the belief of their right to refuse a government program.
There are also areas in the country that are heavily depended on government welfare but dont have the industry to employ those who come out of the program you laid out.
You could refuse if you wished, but you would no longer recieve benefits from the government. Nobody is going to drag anyone screaming and kicking to school. As for not having the jobs in a given area, a relocation allowance (one time) could also be established.
So many here seem to want to end welfare and since we know it will never be allowed by the voters without some sort solution for doing so would you be willing to do the following:
1. Create a vocational education system (2 years or less) that helps those that want to learn a trade or profession, with the following stipulations
The course must be completed to graduation.
That the person is assisted to find a job in their new trade but must work in that profession for a minimum of two years or they have to pay the government back for the education they received.
2. A system where vouchers are made to help cover daycare costs for children until the person is placed in a working position.
3. Those that cannot work such as the elderly or disabled are placed on a system that helps ensure they get their basic needs met.
4. Free healthcare for those attending vocational and ends once they are back to work.
5. Ban for life anyone caught committing fraud or refusing to attend schooling or unwilling to accept work after graduation.
6. Once everyone that is on the educational program, is put on another program or kicked off then end welfare as we know it.
Yes I know that some of these programs will cost money, but the way I look at it it is investing money in America's future and in the future of Millions of Americans and we would all benefit. I would also add that I believe the numbers of people and the costs would drop dramatically once more people go through the program and go to work, not to mention the fact that many that may have thought they were going to live off the government realize they will have to work will avoid the wrong path from the beginning.
Anyway it is just a thought, would you agree to such a method of reform or do you have a better idea other than simply killing it off and not replacing it with something else.
Isn't this kinda socialist thinking?
ANd who says the "fields" these people(aka single poor moms) are gonna pay after graduation? Day care is already damn near free for poor single parents... medicaid ....
I like the thought process but I don't think welfare people are "lazy" just having kids and being poor make it very tough... I would suggest raising the minumun wage and lowering the cost of housing a little... let them manage with that..
Those things are already in place. The problem is, the welfare Mama's don't want to work. Or go to school. They use up the 24 months of benefits, doctor shopping, to get on Social Security, to keep the gravy boat going.
Get the mind set, of folks who just want free rent, free food, don't want to work.
Those things are already in place. The problem is, the welfare Mama's don't want to work. Or go to school. They use up the 24 months of benefits, doctor shopping, to get on Social Security, to keep the gravy boat going.
Get the mind set, of folks who just want free rent, free food, don't want to work.
Do you have proof to your assertion, besides seeing one or two people in the grocery store. Any credible studies by a non-partisan group?
So many here seem to want to end welfare and since we know it will never be allowed by the voters without some sort solution for doing so would you be willing to do the following:
1. Create a vocational education system (2 years or less) that helps those that want to learn a trade or profession, with the following stipulations
The course must be completed to graduation.
That the person is assisted to find a job in their new trade but must work in that profession for a minimum of two years or they have to pay the government back for the education they received.
2. A system where vouchers are made to help cover daycare costs for children until the person is placed in a working position.
3. Those that cannot work such as the elderly or disabled are placed on a system that helps ensure they get their basic needs met.
4. Free healthcare for those attending vocational and ends once they are back to work.
5. Ban for life anyone caught committing fraud or refusing to attend schooling or unwilling to accept work after graduation.
6. Once everyone that is on the educational program, is put on another program or kicked off then end welfare as we know it.
Yes I know that some of these programs will cost money, but the way I look at it it is investing money in America's future and in the future of Millions of Americans and we would all benefit. I would also add that I believe the numbers of people and the costs would drop dramatically once more people go through the program and go to work, not to mention the fact that many that may have thought they were going to live off the government realize they will have to work will avoid the wrong path from the beginning.
Anyway it is just a thought, would you agree to such a method of reform or do you have a better idea other than simply killing it off and not replacing it with something else.
Some of those are good short and medium term measures that will allow time for Americans who are dependent on the system to wean off it. However in the long term we must abolish welfare because it's unconstitutional and theft.
Some of those are good short and medium term measures that will allow time for Americans who are dependent on the system to wean off it. However in the long term we must abolish welfare because it's unconstitutional and theft.
Uhh, got any cites to that "it's unconstitutional" as well as cites to statutes which make it theft?
Are you an attorney specializing in any of the above areas?
First, we should work to end welfare for illegal immigrants. This is a major drain on society. Also, you must consider, welfare is not the biggest drain on the budget system.
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