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Old 10-17-2012, 10:55 AM
 
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And I'm sure you also believe that a massive recession that Bush left the office with, had absolutely no effect, so you'd rather not even touch the food stamp expansion he signed off on which only qualified more people for it.

Ghosts of Newt...

Gingrich's Faulty Food Stamp Claim
Lets throw out the 2009 numbers...

What has been done to stop it?
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:56 AM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Not sure why ANYONE thinks that the reason for the increase in people on food stamps was created or made by President Obama.
The recession has hit the poor and middle class far worse than it hit the wealthy..... far worse.
Unemployment was huge towards the end of Bush's term, and i mean HUGE..... this does NOT suddenly get wiped out as soon as a new President takes office..... as Paul Ryan said...... unemployment carries on after a recession is over.
in 2008, America was imploding and the housing market collapsed, wall street collapsed. employment collapsed, we were in two expensive wars. Terrorism had escalated on American soil BUT the banks, financial institutions, wall street and big corporations were climbing into their lifeboats as America was sinking.
President Obama was voted into office on hope and change but the minute he was elected the strategy from the right was to make sure that America did NOT recover as they just wanted Obama out and the Republican's back in the Whitehouse... no matter how much American's suffered. This meant that people here had to suffer and suffer and they did.
This suffering caused by the blockade of any plans by Obama to get America out of the HORRIFIC situation, caused by the Bush 8 year assault on the USA was put to a crawl.... a bit like someone trying to bail out a sinking ship but being stopped access to the pumps to get the water out and handed a teaspoon and told to get on with it.
President Obama did NOT make anyone get food stamps, food stamps were already here.... the recession did that and food stamps have been important for millions to stop them literally dying.
The economy is now getting better and this will be reflected by the amount of people on food stamps getting less and less but that will only happen after a complete recovery. Foreclosures are down, house prices are rising, employment is coming back EVERY month, Health care is now slowly moving into the 21st century and hopefully no longer the complete monopoly and completely controlled by the Insurance companies and wealthy CEO's.... who work on the "i'm alright Jack" hypothesis .We are out of one expensive war and getting out of another. Women are getting proper recognition and rights. Being gay is being recognised as normal and NOT some kind of sin. America no longer jumps headlong into foreign wars etc etc etc......... All of these things are a positive indicator for America and a positive direction for food stamps to decrease........ NO ONE wants to be on food stamps but if it is a choice of no food or food stamps.... we would ALL go get food stamps..... saying you wouldn't would be sooo stupid when your family are being harmed and a lie... unless you are obviously dumb and your family means nothing to you. If many on food stamps hadn't lost their job's they would NOT be on food stamps..... see the connection now?............. huge job losses equates to a huge rise in food stamps. GOT IT?
Romney has NEVER had to worry about food stamps and he meant what he said about his contempt for the 47% BUT Romney seems to forget his parents not only were in the 47% claiming benefits but they were given a special benefit created for mormon's returning from Mexico, it was lucky for them their son wasn't President when they returned to the USA from Mexico, they wouldn't have had the special benefit programme created but would have been looked at by Romney as people who felt like "victims" and NOT for him to worry about.
Romney feels that his Parent's were somehow different or special from the people claiming benefits today..... NO Mitt.... they were exactly the same people you are looking down on now.
Food stamps are NOT the problem in the USA today..... they are saving the lives of people who have lost virtually everything because of the corrupt and inept policies of the Bush/Republican administration.
If you want the Country to step back four years and probably explode the need for food stamps even more and probably be needed by many of the complaicent here who, for some reason, feel that hardship will never happen to them but are as vulnarable as anyone else to the elitist policies that Romney will put into place and the war's he will get us into........
Vote Romney.
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:57 AM
 
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Could it be that G.W Bush pushed banks to lend out mortgages to anyone that could talk? This in turn cause a economic meltdown that causes people to lose their jobs in banking, manufacturing, construction etc. So when people lost their jobs, they lost their cars, house, ability to pay daycare food, electric etc. Therefore they were in need. Obama inherited a mess during the downturn. But Bush created it. It just so happen that more people than ever needed help because of the Bush policy. Yet Obama was there and supporting middle class Americans that needed help. Yet Bush was filling CEOs of big oils pockets. In my opinion Obama is not a food stamp president just a president that gives a damn about the poor working class while the big oil president was on the sidelines making sure the oil kept flowing.
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Old 10-17-2012, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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So you are ADMITTED that Obama FAILED.
No. He didn't, even though traitors have wished all along that he did, regardless of the consequences.

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He wanted the job in 2008.
And I wanted him for the job.

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He PROMISED he'd fix the economy by his 3rd year in office or else he wouldn't deserve re-election.
The fact that we're complaining about economy not doing better rather than counting millions in job losses, proves that he met his promise. In fact, we now have 32-33 months of employment growth in the private sector, adding 4.3 million jobs. Could it be better? Yep. But I wouldn't blame Obama for it.

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He PROMISED 5.2% unemployment by now.
Where can I see this claim?

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He PROMISED to cut the deficit in half.
And that was based on what premise?

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Which one of those things did he deliver on????
Pretty much everything... despite the traitors doing their best to make sure he didn't succeed. So, they would rather rely on lies, and talking points.
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Old 10-17-2012, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Lets throw out the 2009 numbers...
Why?

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What has been done to stop it?
What do you think started it? Realizing THAT ought to be the first step.
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Old 10-17-2012, 11:06 AM
 
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The fact that we're complaining about economy not doing better rather than counting millions in job losses, proves that he met his promise. In fact, we now have 32-33 months of employment growth in the private sector, adding 4.3 million jobs. Could it be better? Yep. But I wouldn't blame Obama for it.

FACT: Obama is still a net jobs killer | WashingtonExaminer.com




Americans Employed, January 2009: 142,187,000
Americans Employed, today: 142,101,000


Jobs in U.S. Economy, January 2009: 133,561,000
Jobs in U.S. Economy, today: 133,300,000

The USA gained LESS jobs in September than it did in August.
The USA gained LESS jobs in August than it did in July.
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Old 10-17-2012, 11:07 AM
 
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Why?

What do you think started it? Realizing THAT ought to be the first step.
I fully understand who started it.

So, what has been done to stop it, bring back the 2009 numbers....

No need to blame the Bush admin anymore, the obama admin has had many years to fix it, they have not. Why?


Wait, here is your answer....BUSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Old 10-17-2012, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Could it be that G.W Bush pushed banks to lend out mortgages to anyone that could talk?
It was the only refuge to prop-up the economy that had struggled for nearly all of his first term with republicanism in effect. It makes for a very inconvenient fact for these stupid right wingers to accept that at the end of Bush's four years, with republican congress at hand, net increase in private sector jobs was: -913K.

Well, did I call it an increase? The size of private sector payroll was SMALLER at the end of his first term by nearly a million jobs! And these idiots present self as "job creators". BUT, they did create jobs eventually... for a couple of years and we should send a thank you letter to each of the five financial giants who "sacrificed" self by being allowed to lend with leverage at over 30:1!

But, the ignorant would rather blame FDR, Carter, Clinton and now Obama for it.
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Old 10-17-2012, 11:08 AM
 
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Where can I see this claim?

A few posts back in this thread!

I posted Obama's own graph from the White House website showing what he promised would happen if we passed his stimulus....5.2% unemployment by the end of 2012.
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Old 10-17-2012, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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A few posts back in this thread!

I posted Obama's own graph from the White House website showing what he promised would happen if we passed his stimulus....5.2% unemployment by the end of 2012.
I am not looking at an idiots version of it, but straight from the horses mouth.
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