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It is expanding government POWER not government agencies necessarily. You really needed that distinction pointed out.
No, the racial profile stuff is all over many police departments.
Well at the local level the racial profiling is brought on by the patterns of the demographics of the people arrested. It is what it is.
As far as marriage..get rid of civil unions altogether. Two people want to join up then get married in a Church. If they want legal protection then get a lawyer to draw up a contract.
Well those self rghteous ones who are able bodied are just as bad..... his plan goes after those folks as well you know
You are working to hard on this...... it is a basic outline..... and it a better plan than any Dem or Rep has had in awhile
Nobody said that all food stamp folks are bad..... just the ones who abuse it..... and yes, I am the first one who complains about the big fish getting welfare (they call them bailouts) so I never protect the so called "wealthy"
Anyways, carry on
Oh so he is suggesting cutting all government programs? I never read nor hear conservatives admit that those Americans who participate in 401k plans, employer provided healthcare, or the mortgage tax deduction are sucking at the government trough and using government programs.
I didn't read that at all. He is focused like conservatives always focus on the paltry government benefits of those people.
Again, for conservatives it is always some fantasy poor person who is abusing the "system" that they can't stand, much like voter fraud, these fantasies are then used to support enacting policies that specifically hurt certain groups of people while ignoring others. Usually people conservatives don't like and who they believe are bad and destroying the nation, and blah, blah, blah.
It is this intense dislike of millions of other Americans that motivates 99% of conservative outrage at government spending. Even though this spending is minuscule by comparison to the huge government programs they love like military spending, social security, medicare, medicaid, military vet benefits, unemployment benefits, etc.
Oh so he is suggesting cutting all government programs? I never read nor hear conservatives admit that those Americans who participate in 401k plans, employer provided healthcare, or the mortgage tax deduction are sucking at the government trough and using government programs.
I didn't read that at all. He is focused like conservatives always focus on the paltry government benefits of those people.
Again, for conservatives it is always some fantasy poor person who is abusing the "system" that they can't stand, much like voter fraud, these fantasies are then used to support enacting policies that specifically hurt certain groups of people while ignoring others. Usually people conservatives don't like and who they believe are bad and destroying the nation, and blah, blah, blah.
It is this intense dislike of millions of other Americans that motivates 99% of conservative outrage at government spending. Even though this spending is minuscule by comparison to the huge government programs they love like military spending, social security, medicare, medicaid, military vet benefits, unemployment benefits, etc.
There you go with the all or nothing hyperbole of Dems and Reps..... jeez... give it a rest.... cutting does not mean eliminating..... reform is what is needed, not elimination...... from the top down, I might add
So, you really believe that nobody takes advantage of the system?
I KNOW you didn't read it..... either that or you saw what you wanted to see in it.......
Well at the local level the racial profiling is brought on by the patterns of the demographics of the people arrested. It is what it is.
As far as marriage..get rid of civil unions altogether. Two people want to join up then get married in a Church. If they want legal protection then get a lawyer to draw up a contract.
No, it is a violation of the constitution to racially profile, but I know for constitution loving conservatives violating the civil rights of those people is just a minor problem. It represents a scary expansion of police power, that true small government types would be against, but since conservatives perceive that the groups of people who will suffer are groups of people they don't like, they favor expanding government power to hurt that group of people.
I don't care about gay marriage. The reality is that the small government conservatives want to EXPAND federal government power to prevent states from allowing gay marriage period.
Those small government conservatives are always more than willing to expand government power when they perceive that it will hurt the groups of people they don't like.
There you go with the all or nothing hyperbole of Dems and Reps..... jeez... give it a rest.... cutting does not mean eliminating..... reform is what is needed, not elimination...... from the top down, I might add
So, you really believe that nobody takes advantage of the system?
I KNOW you didn't read it..... either that or you saw what you wanted to see in it.......
Welfare was already reformed. It is a tiny program that involves right now 2.7 million families are extremely poor. There is a 5 year time limit. Why the does this paltry amount of families using welfare upset conservatives so much, that they keep wanting to reform it.
I don't believe in much of anything. Name the situation that someone doesn't take advantage of? Yet, conservatives aren't out riling against everything that someone could take advantage of.
So the question remains why does the thought of some poor person gaming the system so upset conservatives? That's right because conservatives have an intense dislike of millions of other Americans this is what motivates their poor people obsession.
Is the person in the White House working? ---- YES
Do people on welfare or otherwise freeload off of society contribute to society? ---- NO
What's good for the geese also good for the gander works when comparing apples to apples and oranges to oranges, obviously not the case here....
But you said
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In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a "government" job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you.
It appears that both the apples and the oranges will be working. So, will you be beholden to the same requirements?
Welfare was already reformed. It is a tiny program that involves right now 2.7 million families are extremely poor. There is a 5 year time limit. Why the does this paltry amount of families using welfare upset conservatives so much, that they keep wanting to reform it.
I don't believe in much of anything. Name the situation that someone doesn't take advantage of? Yet, conservatives aren't out riling against everything that someone could take advantage of.
So the question remains why does the thought of some poor person gaming the system so upset conservatives? That's right because conservatives have an intense dislike of millions of other Americans this is what motivates their poor people obsession.
There you go again..... dude.... do you really listen to yourself? All you are doing is reciting the same Dem talking points
This is not a Dem or Rep focus we are on..... I notice you conveniently ignored my saying we need to cut out welfare for the rich too....
Why does the thought of fixing broken things upset you so much? Why do you keep repeating the same lies over and over that everyone else who is not strictly the same as you ideologically must be filled with hate?
It is because you are a partisan and you can't think logically.... that is why
I am done with you since it is useless to argue with the irrational
There you go again..... dude.... do you really listen to yourself? All you are doing is reciting the same Dem talking points
This is not a Dem or Rep focus we are on..... I notice you conveniently ignored my saying we need to cut out welfare for the rich too....
Why does the thought of fixing broken things upset you so much? Why do you keep repeating the same lies over and over that everyone else who is not strictly the same as you ideologically must be filled with hate?
It is because you are a partisan and you can't think logically.... that is why
I am done with you since it is useless to argue with the irrational
You think enacting public policy with the express purpose of humiliating people is fixing something.
Fixing things would involve fixing our schools, improving the pay of millions of jobs, improving the skills of millions of workers, being committed as a society to making sure working people have a living wage.
Anything short of that is just more of this fake focus on nothing. Welfare works fine. What is there to correct?
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