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Old 10-03-2012, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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After having spent sometime in Europe, it is really hard to become one of the sheep- so I ride my bicycle to work everyday and there is nothing better!
About 40 miles each way to our office.

Hows that bike ride now??

 
Old 10-03-2012, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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This is BS! I remember when I lived in Phoenix back in the early 90's- it used to take about 2 hours to go from East Suburbs like Mesa, Tempe to the other side of the city by bus. Ridiculous! The light rail in Phoenix is definitely a success story!

It STILL TAKES about 2 hours - oh, maybe 1.75 hrs with the light rail. Remember, the light rail does not get to all the main drags yet.
 
Old 10-03-2012, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Why the hell would I live in a cesspool like Las Vegas?

FACT is - over a Million DO LIVE in Las Vegas.

OBTW - its not a "cesspool".
 
Old 10-03-2012, 05:55 PM
 
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Having a car and being able to afford a car are two different things. Because of absence of public transportation, people with low income are forced to buy car because otherwise they cannot go to work/cannot go to college/cant go for shopping. So even if a person cant afford a car, he/she is forced to buy it thus making him more poor/more debt.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even those in college.....

POOR?, just what are they teaching in colleges today?

This sure describes the conditions of America's poor <sniffle>

World Statistics on the Poor

- 1.3 billion people living today on less than a dollar a day.

- Half the world’s population lives on two dollars a day, and 800 million people are malnourished in developing countries.

- 1.3 billion people who have no clean water.

- Two billion people have no sanitation.

- Two billion have no electricity.

- Almost 1.5 billion people have dangerous outdoor air pollution, and probably 2 to 2.5 billion are exposed to dangerous indoor air pollution or vector (insect)-borne diseases.

Many live in areas of civil strife and are vulnerable to natural disasters.

http://www.jknirp.com/poor.htm

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Old 10-03-2012, 06:16 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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I don't find most of what has been said here entertaining. As a matter of fact, it is very sad that most people think they are "free"- yet fail to realize that they are enslaved by the oil companies and the lack of alternative means of transportation. Actually, it is very sad!
OK....I get it.

Not only do you know better about what form of transit others should be choosing, but you're much more capable than they are of determining whether they are, in fact, "free".

And you wonder what's entertaining?....
 
Old 10-03-2012, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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So what percentage of American population can afford to drive???
There are more cars than licensed drivers. Odds favor close to 100% if they needed or wanted to.
 
Old 10-03-2012, 06:39 PM
 
Location: World
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You mean to say 100% of US population can afford to make car payments, Car insurance, fuel expenses, parking etc.?????? In this forum only, one person was saying that he could not afford car parking in New York.
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There are more cars than licensed drivers. Odds favor close to 100% if they needed or wanted to.
 
Old 10-03-2012, 06:40 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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This movie uncannily predicted the near future....


The Last Chase 1981 Movie Full Version Part 2 - YouTube

When it was released in 1981, there was no confusing who the good guys/bad guys were. Today, the regressives with their upside down reality would use it to tell a totally different perverse story.
 
Old 10-03-2012, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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You mean to say 100% of US population can afford to make car payments, Car insurance, fuel expenses, parking etc.?????? In this forum only, one person was saying that he could not afford car parking in New York.

Not everyone has a car payment - not everyone has to pay for parking -----
 
Old 10-03-2012, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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You mean to say 100% of US population can afford to make car payments, Car insurance, fuel expenses, parking etc.?????? In this forum only, one person was saying that he could not afford car parking in New York.
I said almost, and yes, I think most people could if they needed to. It's a question of priorities. The average cell phone bill for the under 30 crowd is now over $100 a month. That would cover gas and insurance on a small used vehicle that one could pick up for a few thousand dollars. Fifty in gas would get you 12 gallons of gas. At 25mpg you can drive 300 miles a month. With 20 work days you can drive 15 miles a day, or commute up to 7.5 miles each way.

Broken down differently, for $100 a month, or $5 per work day, a guy or gal could commute to work on his schedule with complete flexibility for about the same as bus fare.

If he planned his errands on the way home, he could stop for groceries, etc.

I ignored depreciation on the clunker, and of course there would be some maintenance. Cars can be as expensive as you want them to be; they can also be cheap transportation from A to B.

Many in NYC don't have the need. It probably doesn't make sense given the density and the public transport options. That is a separate matter.
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