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Old 10-21-2012, 02:38 PM
 
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gee, i dont remember saying that.

im just curious, do you consider yourself to be an intelligent person?
Then state what you mean rather than making implications. What exactly does Scotland's disproportionate number of Caucasians have to do with murder rates?

 
Old 10-21-2012, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Gorgeous Scotland
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gee, i dont remember saying that.

im just curious, do you consider yourself to be an intelligent person?
And your purpose in pointing out that Scotland is 98% white was....???
 
Old 10-21-2012, 02:40 PM
 
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A quick google tells me that the US murder rate per capita is more than twice what it is in Scotland, where guns are illegal. So I can eat my haggis in safety.
So, let me get this straight, in Scotland guns are illegal but you still have murder by guns?

I never would have thunk it....
 
Old 10-21-2012, 02:40 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Then state what you mean rather than making implications. What exactly does Scotland's disproportionate number of Caucasians have to do with murder rates?
just that maybe there are factors that are more significant than gun ownership when it comes to murder rates. its not that hard to get a gun where i live, yet im not aware of any murders in my town. its pretty difficult to get one in dc, but lots of murders.
 
Old 10-21-2012, 02:41 PM
 
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And your purpose in pointing out that Scotland is 98% white was....???
oh, clearly i was pointing out that no white person has never murdered anybody.
 
Old 10-21-2012, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Gorgeous Scotland
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just that maybe there are factors that are more significant than gun ownership when it comes to murder rates. its not that hard to get a gun where i live, yet im not aware of any murders in my town. its pretty difficult to get one in dc, but lots of murders.
You did not explain what being white has to do with it.
 
Old 10-21-2012, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Gorgeous Scotland
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So, let me get this straight, in Scotland guns are illegal but you still have murder by guns?

I never would have thunk it....
You're putting words in my mouth. Where did I say there were murders committed in Scotland with guns?

Umm..I know it's complicated but it is possible to commit murder without a gun. But very difficult to commit American-style mass murders without one.
 
Old 10-21-2012, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Eastern Colorado
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Where there are more guns there is more homicide (literature review).


Homicide - Firearms Research - Harvard Injury Control Research Center - Harvard School of Public Health
This Harvard study found just the opposite more guns in european countries translates to a lower murder rate.
Harvard Study: Gun Control Is Counterproductive | The American Civil Rights Union


Also for all the hype on how this only occurs in the US, you may want to read this link,
BBC News - Cumbria shooting rampage suspect's 'body found'

Funny I thought if guns laws were some of the most restrictive in the world something like this would not happen.
 
Old 10-21-2012, 02:46 PM
 
Location: NJ
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You did not explain what being white has to do with it.
im not really sure, but maybe there is a relationship. ill let you draw your own brilliant conclusion.
 
Old 10-21-2012, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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Exactly, the liberals demanded and won civil rights for mental patents. The anti-tax Republicans used that as an excuse to shut down the mental hospitals. That was not what the liberals were demanding. Blaming liberals for it is crazy. It was just more anti-tax government spending cuts that shut down the mental hospitals. And it backfired badly. Most of those former mental patents, are now in the revolving through the prison system. Which costs tax payers just as much money to house them in prisons, as if they were in mental institutions.

Now take all of these mentally ill people walking the streets, which is like gasoline. Add to that, the easy availability of guns which is like the match, and you have the very volatile situation we have now.
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