Another mass shooting! (generations, racist, crimes, guns)
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The problem is that schizophrenics, if not closely monitored, will go off of their medication. It is not a question of if but when.
I seriously doubt that you can make a case that spree/mass shootings are the result of schizophrenia which is a very specific form of mental illness and appears to result in less violence being committed than depression, bipolar disorder, psychotic disorders, substance abuse or other personality disorders.
MacArthur Risk Assessment Study, estimated the prevalence of community violence in discharged patients by diagnosis. Violence was measured from multiple sources every 10 weeks for a year. Of the 17% of patients with a diagnosis of schizophrenia, 9% were violent in the first 20 weeks after discharge. This compares with a violence prevalence of 19% for depression, 15% for bipolar disorder, 17.2% for other psychotic disorders, 29% for substance misuse disorders and 25% for personality disorder alone. The fact that this and other studies have found rates of violence to be lower in those with schizophrenia than in those with other diagnoses (Harris et al, 1993; Wallace et al, 1998) should not be misinterpreted to suggest that schizophrenia may be irrelevant or even a protective factor against violence. It is probably true that schizophrenia is less of a violence risk than substance misuse, personality disorder and possibly other mental disorders, but when compared with the general population, as this review amply demonstrates, the evidence is overwhelmingly in favour of an increased risk of violent behaviour.
And maybe they do need to be monitored. Maybe they should be required to report to some place every day and take their medicine under supervision, but I don't think the mentally ill should be locked up other than as an absolute last resort.
There have been so many cuts in funding for the mentally ill, its ridiculous. NAMI of Oklahoma was cut below a skeleton crew. You never know if anyone will be there to answer the phone or not. Also, the "homes" for the mentally ill in Oklahoma (as I'm sure there are in other states) are disgusting. There is definitely a need for more. And, they are government funded, but, the "home" gets to pick and choose who they take for residency. I think Parkside hospital in Tulsa is good, or really, most of the hospitals in Tulsa. I think you can find a better "home" for them too, in Tulsa. They seem to really care about getting the individual better, whereas OKC seems to treat them as just another person to get in, get meds, get out.
Then why do people always bring up countries like Scotland or Sweden into these discussions?
Why not just pick some non-white country with gun laws like Mexico and compare us with it's homicide rates?
I didn't realize people always bring up Scotland or Sweden. Can you point me towards those threads? Usually, we get brilliant points from gun fondlers that since DC has a gun ban, there shouldn't be any guns there.
Now, why was the 98% Caucasian number relevant, again?
I didn't realize people always bring up Scotland or Sweden. Can you point me towards those threads? Usually, we get brilliant points from gun fondlers that since DC has a gun ban, there shouldn't be any guns there.
Now, why was the 98% Caucasian number relevant, again?
ive seen scotland and switzerland here that i can remember. usually people just go "western europe" which is made up of verrrry heterogeneous countries.
Why is it so much higher here than nearly every other Western nation? For instance, why is there so little in Canada? The cold?
How about Brazil with it's much more restrictive gun laws than ours? How does it compare?
It's pretty obvious that gun laws alone are not a factor. "Diversity", population density and crowding, lack of moral values, drug use and addiction may all be factors you should consider. Mexico for example has very strict gun laws.
Let's see... Scotland is maybe comparable size and population to Minnesota ? Last I heard the crime rate in MN was fairly low.
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