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More like the will of the sore losers. I think this is just as funny as the "other side" declaring they're moving to Canada after their guy lost.
Grow up, folks, Obama won, there was no "voter suppression" on his side, Mittens lost both the popular and electoral vote. You just can't get your immature little heads around that fact, can you?
This kind of RW nuttery is what's screwing up the GOP.
I'd say it's more the most embarrassing moment in the history of the GOP. I've never so many tantrums thrown in my life.
So what political party do you think most of these petition starters belong to? Who are wasting our time with this nonsense?
From what I have been reading, it is a position of statement. Even in the link provided by the OP, the person stated this would be a non-binding referendum. That is, it is the state is not required to act on it, it is an advisory means to which the people are informing the state of their objections to the issues at hand.
So it isn't (at least in the case of Texas) an actual demand for secession, rather it is a call out to the state and to the US government as well as the nation as a whole that its policies are violating founding principals, using other methods of government that ours was not intended, nor allowed to implement be it through the power of government or the will of the people. The will of the people can not ignore the requirements and protections of our system. This is why we were never a pure democracy in the first place and so regardless of the demands of the majority, they can not infringe on the liberty of its people.
All this will do is allow a actual representation of the people to voice their concern and by putting a number to it (the results of its votes when the measure if voted on), it shows that people are concerned and have an objection to the violations and policies of the US.
The thing is, if all of these states show a large number of votes to bring a non-binding referendum to success, then it does show there is a major problem in our country and the people are being ignored.
The thing is, if all of these states show a large number of votes to bring a non-binding referendum to success, then it does show there is a major problem in our country and the people are being ignored.
Oh, I can't wait to see that. It would lend at least some credibility to the drama queens, and an incentive for me to personally take charge of dealing with this mob rule proposed.
"Fringe Lunatics In All 50 States Sign Petitions To Secede Following Obama's Re-Election"
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Like Canada wants them. NOT!
LOL! Exactly.
I'm sure they'll be very happy there; gay marriage is legal, promotion of diversity is paramount, and separation of church and state is absolute. And let's not forget Universal Healthcare.
Why are all you red-staters still here typing on your laptops?? Don't you have a new government to plan and bunkers to build?
So typical. All talk - no action.
I'm not holding my breath for your guys to leave but it sure would be a refreshing change.
Buh-bye.
They are taking action according to our system and through peaceful means. A non-binding referendum is merely a statement. If it were binding, then that would be more of an action as it would be required to be fulfilled.
What are you looking for? A war? Do you expect them to close off their borders and start shooting?
Are you against the people properly using the system to voice their concern?
From what I have been reading, it is a position of statement. Even in the link provided by the OP, the person stated this would be a non-binding referendum. That is, it is the state is not required to act on it, it is an advisory means to which the people are informing the state of their objections to the issues at hand.
So it isn't (at least in the case of Texas) an actual demand for secession, rather it is a call out to the state and to the US government as well as the nation as a whole that its policies are violating founding principals, using other methods of government that ours was not intended, nor allowed to implement be it through the power of government or the will of the people. The will of the people can not ignore the requirements and protections of our system. This is why were never a democracy in the first place and so regardless of the demands of the majority, they can not infringe on the liberty of its people.
All this will do is allow a actual representation of the people to voice their concern and by putting a number to it (the results of its votes when the measure if voted on), it shows that people are concerned and have an objection to the violations and policies of the US.
The thing is, if all of these states show a large number of votes to bring a non-binding referendum to success, then it does show there is a major problem in our country and the people are being ignored.
Almost sounds like a procedural grievance I would file at work if I felt something wasn't fair. But my company is not a representative structure like our Federal Government. Doesn't it seem kind of an extreme measure? How about starting with writing a letter signed by unhappy citizens and sending it to the appropriate congressperson?
Oh, I can't wait to see that. It would lend at least some credibility to the drama queens, and an incentive for me to personally take charge of dealing with this mob rule proposed.
Dealing with? How so? Are you implying violent discourse to deal with those who voice their concerns to the direction and actions of government over many years?
If you are, then you are making their argument for them.
They are taking action according to our system and through peaceful means.
Which system would that be? Everything points to their collective heads suffering with sourgrapeitis.
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Dealing with? How so? Are you implying violent discourse to deal with those who voice their concerns to the direction and actions of government over many years?
So you presumed violence. It is what is really in your head anyway.
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If you are, then you are making their argument for them.
I make argument for self, not for dummies much less those suffering with mental issues because their party didn't win the election.
Except if you look, only a handful of those signatures are actually from those states which "wish" to secede. In New Hampshire and Hawaii for example, the percentage of signatures from within those states is less than 10%. Not only that, but the Hawaii petition wasn't even started by a Hawaii native, but rather someone from Florida.
It's an embarrassing moment alright...it's an embarrassing moment for those of us who aren't crying little babies about losing an election. My candidate didn't win (Johnson never had a chance, not even in the GOP primaries), but you don't see me calling for the treasonous act of secession.
It's merely nothing but a bunch of hicks from the sticks who simply can't accept that they lost the election and that America is no longer the refuge for the old white man it once was.
If you want to secede, just get the hell out of my country and stop trying to destroy America you pathetic losers!
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