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Old 11-16-2012, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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No, it requires private citizens to pay for something they were already getting.

I disagree with a mandate to buy anything from the federal government, but republicans didn't have a alternative plan, and wouldn't see a limited single payer system enacted, and thus, here we are.
With the control of Congress being in the hands of the Democrats I don't remember the Republicans being asked for their program. Kind of like the way Harry Reid just won't allow anything to be brought to the floor of the Senate that comes from the House that he doesn't like.

No sir, I don't think the Republicans were even allowed to take any part in the writing of the ACA. They sure didn't vote on it. You do remember where it was written and who wrote it, don't you?
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:16 AM
 
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The real purpose of the Affordable Health Care law was to expand the size of government.

What do you think?
That's EXACTLY what it was. The limitations that it's putting on businesses are causing them to cut their insurance offerings, which in turn will lead to...wait for it...a single payer system (ie. government). This is exactly what they wanted.

Those that didn't see it are too stupid or too blinded by their love of the man. Anyone against this HAD to be against it because they didn't like Obama, right? Not because they couldn't see what this truly was?
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:26 AM
 
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What advantage to anyone to do something so stupid?

ObamaCare is just part of the liberal plan to further weaken America's economy in an effort to reduce America's strength and influence in the world - to humble the country and bring it to it's knees.
Its origin is republican. Even a former republican governor implemented it in his State well before Obama was the president. After all it just forces you to pay dividends to shareholders. And because of this transction taking place in the private sector it is not a tax, in which a republican judge said it was.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:31 AM
 
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ObamaCare is just part of the liberal plan to further weaken America's economy in an effort to reduce America's strength and influence in the world - to humble the country and bring it to it's knees.
C-D is like my little internet porn site. I can't tell my friends because they would think that I was absolutely insane for hang out with people who write such... totally insane crap as above. Plus they would never believe me if I told them.

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Old 11-16-2012, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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ObamaCare is just part of the liberal plan to ......
This is one of the best, albeit long, articles that covers the topic of universial healthcare in the U.S. and how leaders on all side have flipped and flopped over time on individual and employer mandates, going back to Nixon in the early 70's.



The Tortuous History of Conservatives and the Individual Mandate - Forbes
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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With the control of Congress being in the hands of the Democrats I don't remember the Republicans being asked for their program. Kind of like the way Harry Reid just won't allow anything to be brought to the floor of the Senate that comes from the House that he doesn't like.

No sir, I don't think the Republicans were even allowed to take any part in the writing of the ACA. They sure didn't vote on it. You do remember where it was written and who wrote it, don't you?
How many times did the president ask for Republican input? A bunch that I remember. I remember talking about tort reform, and buying insurance across state lines, but nothing that would insure more people or require more people to insure themselves.

Republican followers seem perfectly happy pointing out budgets that were passed by congress while none were being asked for, what's the difference with this?
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:11 PM
 
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That's EXACTLY what it was. The limitations that it's putting on businesses are causing them to cut their insurance offerings, which in turn will lead to...wait for it...a single payer system (ie. government). This is exactly what they wanted.

Those that didn't see it are too stupid or too blinded by their love of the man. Anyone against this HAD to be against it because they didn't like Obama, right? Not because they couldn't see what this truly was?
Whether they were for a single payer system matters not. It`s coming and the sooner the better.
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:18 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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That's EXACTLY what it was. The limitations that it's putting on businesses are causing them to cut their insurance offerings, which in turn will lead to...wait for it...a single payer system (ie. government). This is exactly what they wanted.

Those that didn't see it are too stupid or too blinded by their love of the man. Anyone against this HAD to be against it because they didn't like Obama, right? Not because they couldn't see what this truly was?
And so many of us told them, and they called us insane...(still do, see below)

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Its origin is republican. Even a former republican governor implemented it in his State well before Obama was the president. After all it just forces you to pay dividends to shareholders. And because of this transction taking place in the private sector it is not a tax, in which a republican judge said it was.
I know. Blame Bush.

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C-D is like my little internet porn site. I can't tell my friends because they would think that I was absolutely insane for hang out with people who write such... totally insane crap as above. Plus they would never believe me if I told them.
No. You are correct. They wouldn't believe because they have the same perspective, blinders and all.
It's OK. They don't have to believe. Keep it your secret. They'll find out what Obama and Obamacare is all about soon enough.
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Its origin is republican. Even a former republican governor implemented it in his State well before Obama was the president. After all it just forces you to pay dividends to shareholders. And because of this transction taking place in the private sector it is not a tax, in which a republican judge said it was.
So you managed not to see what Roberts probably did when he said if it is not a tax law it has to be unconstitutional. Do you know that the new round of law suits are mentioning the fact that it is a tax law an the Constitution says in Article I that all revenue laws have to originate in the House of Representatives and this thing sure didn't originate in the House. Hell, they didn't even debate it a little bit but Nasty Nancy sure did say we have to pass it to find out what is in it. I wonder what the Supreme Court will do with this round of suits. Are you even able to understand what I am saying?
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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C-D is like my little internet porn site. I can't tell my friends because they would think that I was absolutely insane for hang out with people who write such... totally insane crap as above. Plus they would never believe me if I told them.
You make such an outstanding example of why you can't tell your leaner friends about things like that and then don't say one thing that shows how insane the crap is. They may believe you if you told them but maybe you shouldn't use that word insane, so often.
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