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This should escalate the combat over there. I actually didn't think it was possible for the Palestinians to shoot down a F-16. They must have upgraded their weapons or got their hands on Heat Seeking Missiles. I am looking for more mainstream sources but for now, this is all I can find..infowars.com/palestinians-shoot-down-israeli-f-16-fighter-jet-in-gaza/
Israel wasn't doing that. Hamas started firing missiles at random about three weeks ago because they are emboldend by their new closer ally in Egypt.
Hamas is stoking this fire, not Israel. I'm not fan of Israel, and I think we should have far less support for them nationally then we currently do, but in this they are in the right. Hamas is starting this crap.
You do realize 70 Palestinians have been killed this year by Israel WITHOUT Hamas provocation, right? This isn't about Hamas. This is about Israel's lack of recognition for human rights. Among the dead are a BBC reporter's 11-month-old baby and a few boys and girls under 8 years old. This is not acceptable.
israel has continued to build new settlements on pallestinian land , the missile attacks are a consequence of this
good ol fashioned cause and effect
israel under an evil man like bibi netenjahu does not want any kind of fair and equal agreement
Fact is Israel withdrew from Gaza as part of the "Disengagement Plan in 2005. For more details of this go to: http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Peace+Proc...-2005.htm#doc1 Israeli settlements in Gaza which were set up just after the 1967 war were removed. In addition Israeli troops were withdrawn.
Hamas thought Israel withdraw was due to its resistance and since taking power have been hitting Israel with missiles and it has been a almost daily occurrence since Hamas took over. So as a result there is no surprise that Israel has hit back.
What is fascinating is that the Taliban have never shot a fighter jet down over Afghanistan with their heat seeker missiles, but these Palestinians managed to do it over Gaza.
What is fascinating is that the Taliban have never shot a fighter jet down over Afghanistan with their heat seeker missiles, but these Palestinians managed to do it over Gaza.
Maybe the Israelis are underestimating their enemy and think that having superior airpower will be sufficient in suppressing this uprising.
if i drove up to my neighbours house with a bulldozer , handed him an eviction notice explaining that he must vacate his house so russians or new yorkers can live there once his own is raised to the ground and a nice house built in its place , i wouldnt be surprised if i got a violent reaction , neither should anyone else with an ounce of sense
That is what you should expect if you squat on land that you do not own and build a house on it.
Fact is Israel withdrew from Gaza as part of the "Disengagement Plan in 2005. For more details of this go to: http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Peace+Proc...-2005.htm#doc1 Israeli settlements in Gaza which were set up just after the 1967 war were removed. In addition Israeli troops were withdrawn.
Hamas thought Israel withdraw was due to its resistance and since taking power have been hitting Israel with missiles and it has been a almost daily occurrence since Hamas took over. So as a result there is no surprise that Israel has hit back.
israel withdrew from gazza but control all access points ( land , sea and air ) in and out of it , the place is effectivley the worlds largest prison
The LA TIMES mentions the shoot down of the F-16. One of the comments says the Palestinians took the pilot hostage. I presume he ejected...................latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-rockets-lands-near-jerusalem-20121116,0,1117397.story#tugs_story_display
Because according to your premise, if I decide to take invade someone's home, and the people living there use violence to protect themselves, then I "justify" my own violence against them to make sure that I get what I want.
Violence does not bring peace.
Peace.
brian
My premise is that it is just to defend ones self with violence in order to protect ones self from extinction.
It isn't a difficult concept. Either you do as I mentioned, or you die. If you choose to die rather than defend yourself, then you aren't worthy of the responsibility of living. A person who would allow life to be taken without defense does not respect it.
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