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Old 11-29-2012, 08:58 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
Dude, get a clue. It has nothing to do with dealing with the deficit. It's purely a blind hatred of earned success, and a psychopathic desire to punish those that have worked harder, smarter and accomplished more with their lives.
Exactly, it's what "voting for revenge" was all about.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:02 AM
 
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This makes no sense.

You say "True" -- as if you agree with me that reducing the deficit isn't a good idea.

And then you pull a 180, and describe a policy that would plunge us into recession by cutting the monetary supply in dramatic sudden fashion.

I don't think you have the foggiest idea what closing the deficit would actually do.




Republicans signed Medicare Part D into law, and supported expensive unfunded wars, so if you're trying to blame the size of public debt on "liberals" you don't have a leg to stand on.



Yawn. More of the same garbage economics.

You do see, don't you, that a 15% VAT raises $1.2 trillion. A 20% cut in spending is MINIMAL compared to what will be needed in the future, if nothing is done. Now how do you think a 50% reduction in spending will impact the economy? Our spending has increased over 20% since the Bush years and mostly involves waste.

Blame debt on liberals- of course. See Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and the bloated federal departments.

I love your response. The idiocy of "spend as usual" assures the destruction of the US. There is no way that we can keep spending at these levels and expect to survive as a nation. Given that I want the US to break up, I appluad Obama and the libs efforts to keep spending. It is a win-win situation for everyone.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:05 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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There is nothing in Romney's past to indicate he is a dishonest man, or a corporate raider, if there were the dems would have dug it up, or at least ran dishonest campaign ads and lied about it.

Meanwhile Obama continues to be the biggest crony capitalist in the nation's history, and you voted to reelect him? Talk about fear of a president raiding the treasury to benefit his friends and cronies?



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Exactly, it's what "voting for revenge" was all about.
That was a revealing slip of the tongue.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:07 AM
 
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Math and finances is not their strong point. Arts and social issues is where it's at.
No price can be put on total equality of outcome for all Americans as we march to Utopia.

Interesting that you claim Math and Finances are not a liberal strong point. Did you forget Willards Math issues? How again was he going to pay for his tax cuts and defense budget increase?
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:11 AM
 
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I know, I know!

By closing loopholes and capping deductions!

Oh, wait... Mitt Romney's not a 'liberal' ... (and he's never going to be President anyway) ...

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Old 11-29-2012, 09:21 AM
 
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You do see, don't you, that a 15% VAT raises $1.2 trillion. A 20% cut in spending is MINIMAL compared to what will be needed in the future, if nothing is done. Now how do you think a 50% reduction in spending will impact the economy? Our spending has increased over 20% since the Bush years and mostly involves waste.

Blame debt on liberals- of course. See Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and the bloated federal departments.

I love your response. The idiocy of "spend as usual" assures the destruction of the US. There is no way that we can keep spending at these levels and expect to survive as a nation. Given that I want the US to break up, I appluad Obama and the libs efforts to keep spending. It is a win-win situation for everyone.
Well, Obama and his admin have been going thru the budget "line by line" looking for waste, fraud, abuse, and under performing programs, for almost four years now. They should have a ready list of cuts to federal spending.... unless he was lying back in 2009, again.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:23 AM
 
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Interesting that you claim Math and Finances are not a liberal strong point. Did you forget Willards Math issues? How again was he going to pay for his tax cuts and defense budget increase?
By reducing regulatory burdens and adding tax incentives for growing the economy, something Obama will never do.

That's Obama's problem, all he wants to do is increase taxes and regulations, while ignoring our stagnant economy, and no growth in employment.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:24 AM
 
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Wow

It sounds like a conflicted Von Helsing. I'll bet that burning at the stake bit hurts.

Not conflicted. I just find whining rentiers disgusting like rotting corpses. They whine about leaching off the state while they do it themselves and often more so. Then they posture how they take the long view.


Woo hoo.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:25 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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We just had the biggest financial disaster/swindle in the history of the world and the Republicans nominate the head of Bain Capital, a finance guy.
Exactly. Romney's nomination was an act of reaching across the aisle to the Democrats, who rely HEAVILY on finance guys and companies like Bain to provide for their union pension funds and public educational institution expenditures:
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Bain’s private-equity executives have enriched dozens of organizations and millions of individuals in the Democratic base — including some who scream most loudly for President Obama’s re-election.

Government-worker pension funds are the chief beneficiaries of Bain’s economic stewardship.

* Illinois Municipal Retirement Fund ($2.2 million)
* Indiana Public Retirement System ($39.3 million)
* Iowa Public Employees’ Retirement System ($177.1 million)
* The Los Angeles Fire and Police Pension System ($19.5 million)
* Maryland State Retirement and Pension System ($117.5 million)
* Public Employees’ Retirement System of Nevada ($20.3 million)
* State Teachers Retirement System of Ohio ($767.3 million)
* Pennsylvania State Employees’ Retirement System ($231.5 million)
* Employees’ Retirement System of Rhode Island ($25 million)
* San Diego County Employees Retirement Association ($23.5 million)
* Teacher Retirement System of Texas ($122.5 million)
* Tennessee Consolidated Retirement System ($15 million)

the following public universities invested over $400 million with Bain Capital between 1998 and 2008:

* Purdue University ($15.9 million)
* University of California ($225.7 million)
* University of Michigan ($130 million)
* University of Virginia ($20 million)
* University of Washington ($33 million)
Look Who Profits At Bain Capital

Seems those "greedy rich" are actually public employee unions and public universities.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:25 AM
 
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Well, Obama and his admin have been going thru the budget "line by line" looking for waste, fraud, abuse, and under performing programs, for almost four years now. They should have a ready list of cuts to federal spending.... unless he was lying back in 2009, again.
Give you one guess what the answer is.
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