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Colleges turn out too many useless whiny crybabies in the IT field, maybe this will change things....
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Saying No to College
Students who want to avoid $200,000 in student-loan debt might consider enrolling in a technology boot camp, where you can learn to write code in 8 to 10 weeks for about $10,000.
Good luck with that. The For Profit bootcamp pockets your $10G and you and Sallie Mae begin an even longer and more fruitful relationship (for Sallie). No one is hiring 10 week programmers. FAIL
Good luck with that. The For Profit bootcamp pockets your $10G and you and Sallie Mae begin an even longer and more fruitful relationship (for Sallie). No one is hiring 10 week programmers. FAIL
That is actually a good point, the better question with this whole thread of "college is for suckers" is to ask if there is any changes happening within the work field were we have a tight employment making it so that employers can ask for any checkpoint they want and often times employers are looking for someone with a bachelors degree and even a masters degree. This is a trend I don't see changing any time soon.
on line course for certificate is a much better path several available. get out of the hustle game.
i would hire somebody with a certificate in the work from berkely on line schooling with no debt before i would hire a berkley grad with 150k of debt.
all americans want a college ed. most just need a trade.
Colleges turn out too many useless whiny crybabies in the IT field, maybe this will change things....
The concept is correct. We have way too many kids going to college and a shortage of skilled workers.
The result is college educated kids doing menial office work for small wages while skilled tradesmen (electricians, welders, etc) get paid a whole lot more.
One solution is to end all government subsidies. Get the government out of the student loan business. If you don't have the balls to work your way through college, don't go.
I still like the idea of a basic liberal education--math, science, history, etc. But higher ed has become so intertwined with gov't now. Like any collectivist enterprise, like Amtrak with its cheeseburgers that cost $16 to make, sell for $9, and are not as tasty as a $2.50 Jumbo Jack, it becomes wildly inefficient and bloated.
The Russians found out that collectivist economics doesn't work, and we are on the way towards learning that same lesson. Unfortunately we will probably have to learn it the hard way, same as they did.
I read some time ago that the unemployment rate for such desireable jobs as foundry worker, steel mill and railroad mechanic and underground mining are relativly low. I wonder why?
I'm grateful for my education -- as I've moved through the years, I've come to recognize, more and more, that the few behaviorals and humanities I was obliged to take rounded me out to some degree -- although independent reading and a little discretion in choices of entretainment media did at least as much.
But my biggest gripe with my alma mater (Penn State, BTW) was that it did virtually nothing to inform its graduates (many of whom, like myself, came from farming or blue-collar backgrounds) of all the nuances and subtleties of the corporate world which, beginning immediately upon graduation, work to turn the independent individual into a submissive, overly-dependent, properly-broken corporate sheep.
Far too many of the deveolpments within both the business world and society at large (internships being one of the worst examples) have done nothing but further stack the deck. As with our overbuilt public sector, I fear we'll see no improvement until the deception collapses under its own dead weight.
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common sense?
