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The OP's issue is likely that it isn't being presented as the absolute rational for the violence that s/he would like to see.
Anything to re-frame the argument away from more sensible regulations.
"But there is overwhelming epidemiological evidence that the vast majority of people with psychiatric disorders do not commit violent acts. Only about 4 percent of violence in the United States can be attributed to people with mental illness."
The vast majority of gun owners also do not commit violent crimes with their guns. Funny that the NYT would leave that part out of it's anti-gun crusade editorial.
The fact is, the last few mass shooters we've seen have all suffered with some form of mental illness, such as the Virginia Tech killer, Gabriel Giffords shooter (sorry Libs, it really wasn't Sarah Palin's fault), and the lunatic who opened fire at an Aurora, Colorado movie theater recently.
Prosecutor Catherine Seppey said the shooter — who was not identified — knew several of the victims, but "he was not known for making threats." In 2005, he was admitted in a psychiatric hospital, she said.
there are too many politicians in the pockets of pharacutical companies. it is like if you create something to heal cancer, that would be illegal. it is sick when a person thinks of it. but our children are being medicated early in life.
Another lunatic with a gun. Time to bring back forced institutionalization, to hell with the ACLU.
Mentally ill man buys guns. Kills roommate, self.
Dayvon Green was a brilliant engineering University of Maryland grad student who was mentally ill and was still able to purchase firearms legally.
Who ever claimed it wasn't a very complex problem?
But when the gun lobby starts whining about everybody being "disarmed" or that somebody is trying to ban all guns, they are being foaming goofballs.. and worse projecting. Nobody in favor of gun control is talking about appealing the 2nd Amendment.
Nobody.
But it is national insanity to allow them to be unregulated, uncontrolled, available to anybody and everybody of age... which is of course the NRA position.
If you believe that this kid in Connecticut should not have had access to an AR-15, then you believe in gun control. Everything else is details.
Unfortunately the kid in Conn. did not use the AR-15 but a easily concealable semiautomatic handgun with a 30 round magazine. Just try to hide an AR-15 under your coat even a winter coat. Also you don't need a snipper weapon which an AR-15 is optimized for if you are going to gun down people where the line of sight does not exceed 20-30 ft or only 5 feet. So banning the AR-15 won't stop this stuff. The only thing it will stop is the people like Charly Whitman or Lee Harvey Oswald. The guys who want to pick off people 100 ft or more distant.
What specific mental illnesses? There is none with the ones you folks would commonly like to connect to violent crimes. Depression? Schizophrenia? Please, show me the studies. I'd enjoy seeing someone establish causal links between those illnesses and homicidal behavior with firearms.
Only if the "gun control" law is very intelligently written and only serves to keep guns out of the hands of crazy unstable people, and not the sane law-abiding ones.
And how exactly does a nation determine who is crazy unstable?
Schizophrenia is a serious mental disorder and yet people with such a diagnosis are not more likely to become amass shooter.
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It is believed the Newtown shooter was Autistic and yet there is nothing to suggest people within the Autism spectrum are moee prone towards violence.
If depression is considered unstable, about 1/10 people in the U.S. are on anti-depressants. Should they be required to give up their firearms?
Hundreds of millions of people in the world are on medications for some form of mental illness/instability. The overwhelming number of them do not become violent.
Many people never seek medical help for serious mental health issues.
It's almost impossible to use insanity as a defense, anymore.
The only thing that seems most likely to predict future violence is prior violence.
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Time to bring back forced institutionalization, to hell with the ACLU.
This is why we need LUNATIC CONTROL not gun control
