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Old 12-26-2012, 09:37 AM
 
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You have failed to back up your assertion of the likliehood of such occurrences.

Not to mention that a trained, and permitted teacher carrying a concealed weapon would not use the weapon for nefarious purposes.

You gun grabbers don't understand that.


Let me google that for you:


A full 21% of shootings in the workplace (of which there are several hundred each year) are "co-worker targeted."


Using that metric, outside of the retail industry, the likelihood of a co-worker shooting you or creating a gun incident in the workplace is higher than a teacher being targeted by a stranger.
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Mifflinburg, PA
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Well since you can see the future could you get me tonight's Powerball numbers?

You have no clue what the President would do. Neither do I which is why I said probably but what do you think is harder....losing your Presidency or losing your child?

no prob 6 12 14 28 get a life
it doesnt matter whos child would get taken again the needs of the many outway the needs of the few and taking the position of president he accepted to risks involved
just like i accepted the risk of 200 years down the road being an electrician my "bad wiring" could potentialy kill someone so i do my job right to avoid catastrophy and so would our president.
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:39 AM
 
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Your cop friend is either an anomaly or being misleading.

I don't know the exact percentage of cops who are shot - but it is rather small.

Contrary to popular perception, cops do not have the most dangerous job in America. That distinction goes to commercial fisherman, truck drivers, and tower climbers.
When did I say he was shot?

Multiple means more than 1 (3 to be precise in my friends case).

Never said it was the most dangerous job in America BUT those with dangerous jobs expect danger correct? If someone said to me "there is a .00000001% chance you could be shot at your desk at work" I wouldn't ask for an armed guard nor expect to be told to get weapons training to defend the lives of hundreds or thousands. I would chalk that up to pretty good odds of me not getting shot at work.
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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well obviously the assailant would be held responsible, after all if it's not for the person who ran into the school with the sole intention of causing harm, there would be no situation in which a child would recieve injuries.
Even accidents? And you're also putting additional responsibility, accountability and liability on teachers. Do you also suggest to pay them more? Do you suggest that their liability be covered via insurance?
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:41 AM
 
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You have failed to back up your assertion of the likliehood of such occurrences.

Not to mention that a trained, and permitted teacher carrying a concealed weapon would not use the weapon for nefarious purposes.

You gun grabbers don't understand that.
Once again you are playing the part of soothsayer. You have no clue what any person would do in any situation. Trained Police Officers have done dirt. Same with trained military and civilians. People are people. Some do bad. Some do good. You have no clue who is going to what what in every single situation.
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Mifflinburg, PA
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Nice deflection. What does that have to do with the US not negotiating with terrorists?
u tried to point that out as negotiation with terrorists haha im just trying to help u get your history straight =)
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:43 AM
 
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well obviously the assailant would be held responsible, after all if it's not for the person who ran into the school with the sole intention of causing harm, there would be no situation in which a child would recieve injuries.
You cannot see the future. Stop pretending like you can.
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Mifflinburg, PA
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Even accidents? And you're also putting additional responsibility, accountability and liability on teachers. Do you also suggest to pay them more? Do you suggest that their liability be covered via insurance?
i simply suggest its better than tuning our attention away and never learning from this tragedy, history is full of people making the same mistakes over and over again, i suggest a change... it's better than doing nothing
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Let me google that for you:


A full 21% of shootings in the workplace (of which there are several hundred each year) are "co-worker targeted."


Using that metric, outside of the retail industry, the likelihood of a co-worker shooting you or creating a gun incident in the workplace is higher than a teacher being targeted by a stranger.
You didn't provide any statistics about those assailants being trained and permitted to carry a concealed weapon.

I am wiling to bet that very few fit that criteria.

But you just want to dodge the central point and lump responsible gun owners in with the lunatics, don't you?
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:48 AM
 
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u tried to point that out as negotiation with terrorists haha im just trying to help u get your history straight =)
Actually Regan's Administration negotiated with the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution to get captured soldiers released. Remember the Iran-Contra affair? That was a part of it.
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