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Old 01-17-2013, 06:45 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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1.) Your story didn't happen.
2.) Why are you paying for your daughter's college? She's 18. She should have gotten a full right on her merit alone. If not, let her pay for it through loans and working. You are enabling her too much.
3.) Your mortgage? Why are you struggling to pay a mortgage? You probably couldn't afford it in the first place.
4.) If someone on welfare eats better than you, you have made poor life choices.
5.) Sad stories? We don't want to hear your sad stories of people on welfare eating better than you.
6.) If you are struggling so bad, maybe you should work harder at your job for the big promotion instead of wasting time posting thread after thread on P&OC. Those TPS reports don't get filled out themselves.
7.) Stop blaming the system for your shortcomings. That sounds like the victim mentality to me.

OOOOOH SNAP! and for good measure!
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Old 01-17-2013, 06:54 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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A mortgage includes taxes and also homeowners insurance which goes up because of Obama. Food is going to continue to rise and so will gas. The people who work for a living have to pay for all the extras including housing, health insurance, food , gas and any other thing that comes down the pike and it is all rising quickly.
All that is covered by Obama. Life is good for those who sit watching tv as they don't have to go to work for a living.
Then there are the retired ones who can't make any money on their savings because CD's and Retirement accounts give notihng back at all. One year CD pays if you are lucky to find someone to pay one quarter of one percent today.
Another sniveling rightie. Good Lord - don't you people ever get tired of whining?

I've never heard so much moaning, groaning, whining and stupidity in my life.

Yeah - life is good for everyone sitting back and watching tv. And EVERYTHING is covered by Obama.

Seriously?
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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People receiving food stamps are not paying for their childs college. Food stamp rules are strict & alot of people dont qualify. My 80+ yr old neighbor on social security is receiving only $16.00 month in food stamps. NO one should go hungry & i mean NO one.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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A mortgage includes taxes and also homeowners insurance which goes up because of Obama.
The taxes in a mortgage are local property taxes. How did Obama raise your property tax?

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Food is going to continue to rise and so will gas.
That's true. Prices have been rising since the Romans. So it's a good bet this trend will continue. But they're not rising quickly and Obama doesn't dictate food prices nor gasoline prices.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Another sniveling rightie. Good Lord - don't you people ever get tired of whining?

I've never heard so much moaning, groaning, whining and stupidity in my life.

Yeah - life is good for everyone sitting back and watching tv. And EVERYTHING is covered by Obama.

Seriously?
that post (the one you were responding to) was an example of the right-wing alternate universe, where poor people live in the lap of luxury, don't work, and watch TV all day. Don't even bother to influence them with facts, such as most getting public benefits work -- just earn too little. The ultra-right are not influenced by information that counters their ideology. Their ideology is a religion that is based in faith in a view of the world that doesn't exist.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:39 PM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by btsilver View Post
1.) Your story didn't happen.
2.) Why are you paying for your daughter's college? She's 18. She should have gotten a full right on her merit alone. If not, let her pay for it through loans and working. You are enabling her too much.
3.) Your mortgage? Why are you struggling to pay a mortgage? You probably couldn't afford it in the first place.
4.) If someone on welfare eats better than you, you have made poor life choices.
5.) Sad stories? We don't want to hear your sad stories of people on welfare eating better than you.
6.) If you are struggling so bad, maybe you should work harder at your job for the big promotion instead of wasting time posting thread after thread on P&OC. Those TPS reports don't get filled out themselves.
7.) Stop blaming the system for your shortcomings. That sounds like the victim mentality to me.
Pretty much ended the thread #Makingi$&up#Americanpeoplewakingup
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:46 PM
 
Location: NJ
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As my wife and I struggle to pay the monthly mortgage and our daughter's college, I'm left wondering why others don't have to be responsible for their own lives.
Why are you struggling? If one wishes to pay for college for a child, it should have been money that has been saved since their birth.

If you can't , and do not earn enough to do so, loans , grants, scholarships, all are available.
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:04 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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As my wife and I struggle to pay the monthly mortgage and our daughter's college, I'm left wondering why others don't have to be responsible for their own lives.

I was at the supermarket this past weekend, and was in line behind two full shopping carts full of racks of ribs, tenderloins, pork chops, soda, a ton of junk food, ribeyes, and a tons of other stuff totaling out to over $800. As she paid with her EBT card, I couldn’t help but wonder what it feels like to be able to buy as much top dollar food as you want with redistributed money of others, or if that would even cross the mind.

Does our current system give people any reason to stop taking advantage, stop having kids they can’t pay for, to be thankful for what they are given, or encourage them to get off the system to support their own existence? I’m talking about the leaches, not the vets, retirees, or handicapped, so keep that in mind.

Save the BS, I don’t feel like arguing about how heartless I am or people who are critical of our failed systems are. I don’t need to hear sad stories, I’ve experienced my own. I just want to know what you think about our welfare system, and its contribution to our entitlement society and the debt.

Is there any hope for our society or have we finally lost the country to the "give me free stuff crowd"..

I think comparing yourself to a family of 6 living on 30K a year take home is a great example of comparing 3 people to 6.

Did you ask her if she was a vet, military, or handicapped?

I think we can ask the Bible on this. Conservative people usually like Jesus stuff, so this should be fun. (You said $800 dollars, the chart on page two shows that is a family of at least 6....or more.)

Judge not, that ye be not judged


Matthew 19:21 ESV / 11 helpful votes
Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”

Seems like you and Jesus see things differently. Maybe, maybe not. Who am I to judge?
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:17 AM
 
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A small cabal of bankers collects $100 billions +/year in fictitious interest payments (on the money they pulled from their arses to loan to big bad government) and they eat rather really, really, really well. Yet, TS is obsessing about Frankenstein food stuff that EBT can buy. It's debatable whether or not EBT card holders could survive without EBT. But bankers could survive quite nicely without $100 billion$+ in handouts each year. Where is your logic? And $100 billions are only federal interest payments. Your mortgage and car loans are also funded by pulling fresh money from thin air. There is small group of very deserving individuals (true leech class) that collect hundreds of billions for doing nothing, yet it's EBT card holders who ate everybody's cake.

Violence, blame and derision always flow from the top to the bottom of a social pyramid. That's the root of the right wing ideology.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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that post (the one you were responding to) was an example of the right-wing alternate universe, where poor people live in the lap of luxury, don't work, and watch TV all day. Don't even bother to influence them with facts, such as most getting public benefits work -- just earn too little. The ultra-right are not influenced by information that counters their ideology. Their ideology is a religion that is based in faith in a view of the world that doesn't exist.
Exactly. 100% correct.
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