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Conservatives are nothing without their fear. "Death panels"... those were debunked years ago, genius.
Death panels exist in the form of health insurance companies, or in the form of government run single payer healthcare.
"Death panel" is nothing more than a euphemism for the need to ration care. And if you think that care goes unrationed anywhere, then you're fooling yourself. It has nothing to do with conservatives or liberals or anything like that.
Even in well-run countries like New Zealand, there are bureaucrats who decide what treatment an individual can and cannot get with government care, and neither the patient nor the doctor has control over that.
Death panels exist in the form of health insurance companies, or in the form of government run single payer healthcare.
"Death panel" is nothing more than a euphemism for the need to ration care. And if you think that care goes unrationed anywhere, then you're fooling yourself. It has nothing to do with conservatives or liberals or anything like that.
Even in well-run countries like New Zealand, there are bureaucrats who decide what treatment an individual can and cannot get with government care, and neither the patient nor the doctor has control over that.
This is very true - and a prime reason why state run healthcare is inefficient, cost prohibitive, ineffective, and wrong.
This is very true - and a prime reason why state run healthcare is inefficient, cost prohibitive, ineffective, and wrong.
You don't seem to grasp the fact that every "health care solution" available has some form of death panels, whether they are run by gov't or private sector.
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When the state becomes more important than the individual, this is the inevitable result.
The individual's well-being is evaluated only in terms of how much he helps or hinders the state.
Not vice versa.
Not any more.
But of course the right's happy with corporations and their bottom lines being more important than the individual, with medical decisons being made by the bean counters rather than physicians. Typically hypocritical feigned outrage from the 'Bama B ashers.
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