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Old 01-26-2013, 08:20 AM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Our society has degenerated more than some societies in which there is much less crime. Children are left to raise themselves, with no fathers, alcoholic or drug addicted mothers - no discipline, no values...and I am not just talking about inner-city ghettos - this is becoming more and more the case in middle and even wealthy populations, and rural populations as well.
Really? Been to Eastern Europe? Been to Africa? I have. Guaranteed those societies are in far worse shape than ours with a lower prison population.

You suggested more prisons, longer prison terms, etc. We already have that, and it doesn't seem to be improving things. Some of the countries with the lowest populations in prison are among the safest.

There is basically no correlation. So building more prisons isn't the solution to our gun violence problem either.
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Old 01-26-2013, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Fort Myers Fl
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Fair point. I think the focus on the AR-15 is due to mass casualty shootings, like Newtown. I'm sure you wouldn't be pleased if the focus were on taking away handguns, would you?

Focus on the most deadly weapons seems reasonable.
If you think the AR-15 is one of the most deadly weapons out there than you know nothing about weapons. I do believe you should learn a few things about firearms before you try to discuss them.
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Old 01-26-2013, 08:23 AM
 
Location: right here
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Good for her....god only knows what would have happened to her and her children if she didn't have a gun.
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Old 01-26-2013, 08:25 AM
 
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You said that you would want the deadliest weapon possible. How about a nuclear armament? I'm extending YOUR logic.

The point is there is no question that we limit the right to bear arms. The question is where is that line drawn and which side of it will the AR 15 end up on .
Arms, as far as I know, means anything that can be carried.
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Old 01-26-2013, 08:26 AM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Arms, as far as I know, means anything that can be carried.
Based on what? How about Hand Grenades?
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Old 01-26-2013, 08:26 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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Arms, as far as I know, means anything that can be carried.
The intent is based on infantry level weapons, firearms that a man can and would carry in an infantry roll.
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Old 01-26-2013, 08:28 AM
 
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Based on what? How about Hand Grenades?
Your obsession with fringe extremes is obnoxious to the point that you're incapable of having a conversation.
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Old 01-26-2013, 08:31 AM
 
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Your obsession with fringe extremes is obnoxious to the point that you're incapable of having a conversation.
That's the goal of any liberal. They can't beat logic so they attempt to derail the topic in order
to lesson a given story's impact.

You have to give them credit, it's got to suck to constantly say (type) things that you know are false.
If they could only use this energy in a positive way we would all benefit. They might even get a job or lose a pound!
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Old 01-26-2013, 08:33 AM
 
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Your obsession with fringe extremes is obnoxious to the point that you're incapable of having a conversation.
That's all people like this have, they cannot have a descent conversation, so they go to the extremes....to attempt to make people like you and me look foolish, except they are the ones (as this guy) is looking completely ignorant of the situation, and that is obvious.
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Old 01-26-2013, 08:34 AM
 
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Based on what? How about Hand Grenades?
Well, if you feel the need to have a hand grenade then have at it. You can either build one like the Aurora shooter did or buy one. (Hint, one is legal and difficult and the other is not)
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