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Old 02-10-2013, 11:43 AM
 
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openly lust for complete gun bans and/or confiscation?

I continually see liberals here on CD claim that gun owners like myself are overreacting when we talk about things like gun bans or any level of gun confiscation. You instantly claim that you only want "common sense gun control" and that "gun control doesn't mean a gun ban" and belittle those who talk about gun bans.

If this is true why do so many of your most outspoken, senior, prominent Democrat politicians openly call for complete gun bans while proposing legislation that would eliminate our 2nd Amendment rights over time?

I frequently hear the old typical "I'm a liberal gun owner and I support common sense gun control" from people here, how do you logically support politicians who openly want to eliminate your right to protect yourself and your family? When so many of them make no effort to hide their desire to ban all guns why do you still support them?

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Old 02-10-2013, 12:01 PM
 
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openly lust for complete gun bans and/or confiscation?

I continually see liberals here on CD claim that gun owners like myself are overreacting when we talk about things like gun bans or any level of gun confiscation. You instantly claim that you only want "common sense gun control" and that "gun control doesn't mean a gun ban" and belittle those who talk about gun bans.

If this is true why do so many of your most outspoken, senior, prominent Democrat politicians openly call for complete gun bans while proposing legislation that would eliminate our 2nd Amendment rights over time?

I frequently hear the old typical "I'm a liberal gun owner and I support common sense gun control" from people here, how do you logically support politicians who openly want to eliminate your right to protect yourself and your family? When so many of them make no effort to hide their desire to ban all guns why do you still support them?
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:01 PM
 
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openly lust for complete gun bans and/or confiscation?

I continually see liberals here on CD claim that gun owners like myself are overreacting when we talk about things like gun bans or any level of gun confiscation. You instantly claim that you only want "common sense gun control" and that "gun control doesn't mean a gun ban" and belittle those who talk about gun bans.

If this is true why do so many of your most outspoken, senior, prominent Democrat politicians openly call for complete gun bans while proposing legislation that would eliminate our 2nd Amendment rights over time?

I frequently hear the old typical "I'm a liberal gun owner and I support common sense gun control" from people here, how do you logically support politicians who openly want to eliminate your right to protect yourself and your family? When so many of them make no effort to hide their desire to ban all guns why do you still support them?
It is trhe same as eating an Elephant - one bit at a time. Now, can someone pass the A1 Pachyderm Sauce!!!
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:13 PM
 
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Prominent Democrat politicians calling for gun bans?

Diane Feinstein has made numerous statements about supporting a total gun ban and claiming she would try for it if she thought she could get the votes.

Democrat controlled New York just passed the most strict, unreasonable gun control measures ever seen in the state. Bloomberg and Cuomo both support banning guns, they make no effort to hide that fact.
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:39 PM
 
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I guess my beliefs about liberal gun owners were correct after all.
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:53 PM
 
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I've considered their stated positions, but after seeing their overwhelmingly favorable reaction to the NY law, I ask myself, what gun control law would they not support? Would they draw the line at 6 rounds? 5? 4? 3?

These are the same people who have been screeching for years that nobody wants to restrict gun ownership, any fear of gun control is paranoia. As of 2 months ago however, this has gone completely out the window as they trot out polls advocating a complete ban on semi-autos and the like.

There are plenty of gun owning liberals but I'd estimate that a majority of them would have no issue at all with a gun ban if it could be achieved politically. At least the ones around here. If you just look at the numbers in this country of gun owners and people who identify themselves as liberals it's hardly a stretch.
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:54 PM
 
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Link to what?

Prominent Democrat politicians calling for gun bans?

Diane Feinstein has made numerous statements about supporting a total gun ban and claiming she would try for it if she thought she could get the votes.

Democrat controlled New York just passed the most strict, unreasonable gun control measures ever seen in the state. Bloomberg and Cuomo both support banning guns, they make no effort to hide that fact.
As if the poster you responded to here needs a link. Bwahahaha!! I would like to see a stupid link posted by him that refutes you. Bait and switch yea? Hahaha! He wants YOU to post a link?! Oh myyyyy!
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:59 PM
 
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I've considered their stated positions, but after seeing their overwhelmingly favorable reaction to the NY law, I ask myself, what gun control law would they not support? Would they draw the line at 6 rounds? 5? 4? 3?

These are the same people who have been screeching for years that nobody wants to restrict gun ownership, any fear of gun control is paranoia. As of 2 months ago however, this has gone completely out the window as they trot out polls advocating a complete ban on semi-autos and the like.

There are plenty of gun owning liberals but I'd estimate that a majority of them would have no issue at all with a gun ban if it could be achieved politically. At least the ones around here. If you just look at the numbers in this country of gun owners and people who identify themselves as liberals it's hardly a stretch.
Exactly my point, I'm just wondering how Democrat voters who own guns for self defense justify the legislation being proposed by Democrats all over the country to limit or eliminate gun rights in their area.
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Old 02-10-2013, 02:22 PM
 
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The new proposals in CA would make a good case of the opening post. CA is trying to out-lib NY. They are even now calling certain ammo 'assault bullets'. In the new proposals, the backers are claiming NY set a good bar and that CA needs to exceed it. They even propose confiscation.
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Old 02-10-2013, 02:24 PM
 
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The new proposals in CA would make a good case of the opening post. CA is trying to out-lib NY. They are even now calling certain ammo 'assault bullets'. In the new proposals, the backers are claiming NY set a good bar and that CA needs to exceed it. They even propose confiscation.
My point exactly, I'd love to hear from a Democrat voting CA resident who claims to own guns or suports the 2nd amendment. I want to know how you can rationalize what the people you support are trying to do to your rights.
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