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Using that argument why is any manufacturing done in this country at all?---since labor is cheaper in other places.
A lot of the manufacturing process is automated and sometimes there is more risk to offshoring. In some cases it is cheaper to manufacture here once transportation costs are calculated. GM doesn't want to manufacture in China because of IP theft, but that is starting to change.
So the "Party of Business" is actually saying that making less money is good for you?
What in the world is going on with the Republicons?
Who said that? If min. wage if actually a good idea why in the world would anyone want to make $9/hr? Make it $25/hr and nobody would qualify for welfare.
Who said that? If min. wage if actually a good idea why in the world would anyone want to make $9/hr? Make it $25/hr and nobody would qualify for welfare.
Then it is not a "minimum" wage - which is not supposed to be a living wage.
Who said that? If min. wage if actually a good idea why in the world would anyone want to make $9/hr? Make it $25/hr and nobody would qualify for welfare.
Yes some Tea Party nutbaggers are actually making a case that a lower minimum wage makes more sense!
Many Republicans had no problem raising the minimum wage under Bush, but now throw a temper tantrum when a Dem wants to do this. Obama's proposal to $9 an hour is hardly radical. That is a 24% increase in the minimum wage - the same percentage increase that occurred under Bush - and still below the long run inflation adjusted minimum.
Obama proposes roughly the same percentage increase in the MW that occurred under the Bush administration. What do radical Republicans do? They throw a temper tantrum and claim that we need to return to the free market model of the Marianas and Saipan.
An open market is not exploitation. In fact, it's the exact opposite of exploitation. It lets the employee decide what rate of pay he is willing to accept and allows the employer to hire the best people it is able to hire at the rate it is willing to pay.
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Well, that may sound like a good theory but the reality is that the workers, who are te many, have no negotiating leverage as individuals against the owner, who is the few or the one. In reality, the owner sets the rate and if you don't like that rate you can take a hike. That is precisely why unions were formed, to equalize the unequal power between mgt and labor.
Okay, so nobody has actually said making less money is good. What the people in Congress said was that a higher min wage hurts people that have no skills more and that a lower min wage makes it easier to gain a foothold in the workplace. This is true and we have economic studies that show this to be the case. You can have a min. wage in jobs that cannot be automated and cannot be outsourced, but not for jobs that can be eliminated.
Grocery stores have self checkout machines now and make you bag your own groceries. If you raise the min wage grocery stores will buy more self checkout equipment and the people that used to check out and bag your groceries will no longer have a job. Companies that employ call centers have been exporting those jobs to India. Will those jobs come back if you raise the cost of business? Legal research, some accounting jobs, and IT are examples of jobs that have been outsourced. Why would any other job be any different? I suppose, in theory you can raise the min wage if you devalue your currency enough, but then you don't really gain anything.
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