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Old 02-16-2013, 08:20 PM
 
Location: mancos
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Oh really? I rented a cottage once and when the owners relocated and sold the property, we agreed on a price for the cottage but the city would not allow then to sell me the guest house independently of the other house on the property.
so you live in a gov run city.too bad. go west young man and discover freedom. but not to far west or you will be in the same communist boat.you loosers that put up with that junk crack me up
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:21 PM
 
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You are not supposed to be "living" on minimum wage. Those expenses are incurred by your parents. Miniumum wage is to get you some experience in the job world so employers can evaluate your talents and abilities. If you are worth keeping, you will be given a raise in six months.

Reality FAIL. Half of all minimum wage workers today are 25 or older.
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:26 PM
 
Location: mancos
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Reality FAIL. Half of all minimum wage workers today are 25 or older.
half of all min wage workers have Nothing to offer,skills,tools drivers licence,functioning brains,etc. but they all have smart phones,facebook,text all day, and lie
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Old 02-16-2013, 09:15 PM
 
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Reality FAIL. Half of all minimum wage workers today are 25 or older.
That's an very misleading stat put out by the BoLS. They take the number working minimum wage 1.7 million PLUS add in another 2.2 million that they state are making less than minimum wage.

Wait staff make less than minimum wage but as discussed here many times their actual pay in a large percentage of these jobs is well over minumum wage.

Tables 1 - 10; Characteristics of Minimum Wage Workers: 2011
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Old 02-16-2013, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Middle Earth
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uhmmm...99% of the states have a min wage...and most are higher than the federal


again..FEDERALLY we should not have a min wage

very few if any though have it a 9 dollars though. Min wage where I live starts at 7.25 the reason to do it federally is to make sure states have a high enough min wage.
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Old 02-16-2013, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Middle Earth
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you mean lack of trying


starting out I worked TWO jobs...one for MONEY...the other for EXPERIENCE (training) (non-pay to boot)
That is good but you being able to do it does not prove everyone else can. Not everyone else may be as smart or well brought up as you. How do you know they are not trying unless you personally know them?
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Old 02-16-2013, 09:37 PM
 
Location: NJ
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That is good but you being able to do it does not prove everyone else can. Not everyone else may be as smart or well brought up as you. How do you know they are not trying unless you personally know them?
Few Americans started out much beyond minimum wage; yet 1 in 37 make minimum now, so 36 of 37 did figure it out.
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Old 02-16-2013, 09:42 PM
 
Location: mancos
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That is good but you being able to do it does not prove everyone else can. Not everyone else may be as smart or well brought up as you. How do you know they are not trying unless you personally know them?
I personally know many people I would never hire. We need to get things done on time and to standards,lazy just there for a paycheck types are never welcome and most job service employees are thieves looking for a mark. move up or move out.
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Old 02-16-2013, 09:50 PM
 
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I'm ok with anyone having the right to accept whatever wage they can convince an employer to pay, or want to accept. I've educated myself and worked to gain experience so that I am worth, and can command, more than $2.00 per hour..
so you would have no problem then if thousands more immigrants, trained in the real estate business, came in which allowed the employer to pay you $2hr?

You would be willing to accept this and lose all your perks - I doubt that somehow.

like I said , you are fine with OTHER people earning this low amount, yet quickly construct self-justification when your own interests are at stake.

And this is what everyone tends to do, especially those paying the wages.

So we must have min wage to avoid the inevitable race to the bottom.
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Old 02-16-2013, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Middle Earth
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Few Americans started out much beyond minimum wage; yet 1 in 37 make minimum now, so 36 of 37 did figure it out.
That is true but how many actually get to a living wage. Most are making $1 maybe $2 above min wage not enough still to live on still.
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