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Old 02-28-2013, 01:43 PM
 
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Long ago I had a summer job flipping hamburgers (literally) in Detroit, and that experience led me to decide to never manage burger flippers.
You decided not to do anything with your life either. My dad decided he didn't want to work in roofing back when he was in HS so he went to school and law school. He started multiple companies and took a few public.

Maybe the simple motivation was the factor here.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:44 PM
 
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??? Everyone at my workplace is paid within 25 cents of minimum wage, and the only ones paid more than minimum wage are lifers who have worked here more than ten years.

Individual performance and productivity vary substantially. Do we ALL have a lack of initiative?

And what's the path to higher wages?
Why don't you move to a more profitable business where they can pay you higher wages for the skills you learned?
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:44 PM
 
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But I decided long ago I never wanted to be a manager. So what else is there?
so you decided a long time ago you wanted to be a min wage laborer
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:45 PM
 
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??? Everyone at my workplace is paid within 25 cents of minimum wage, and the only ones paid more than minimum wage are lifers who have worked here more than ten years.

Individual performance and productivity vary substantially. Do we ALL have a lack of initiative?

And what's the path to higher wages?
How much do you honestly think a burger flipper should make? A HS student can do your job. You don't want to move, to work somewhere else, or to do anything to improve your individual situation. You have been given plenty of advice, but it seems all you want is a higher paycheck for no extra work.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:46 PM
 
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You decided not to do anything with your life either. My dad decided he didn't want to work in roofing back when he was in HS so he went to school and law school. He started multiple companies and took a few public.

Maybe the simple motivation was the factor here.

Wait, you left something out.

How/where did he get the money to start multiple companies? I've had several business ideas but never any meaningful amount of money to actually start them.

And if he started businesses with funds earned with his law degree, well, I prepared for law school but couldn't afford to actually go to law school.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:48 PM
 
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How much do you honestly think a burger flipper should make? A HS student can do your job. You don't want to move, to work somewhere else, or to do anything to improve your individual situation. You have been given plenty of advice, but it seems all you want is a higher paycheck for no extra work.
A burger flipper can work his way up in the restaurant business. If he doesn't want to be a manager he can be a cook for better restaurants, thus getting paid better. At one point, he could go to a culinary school, and become the head chef of a quality restaurant.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:50 PM
 
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so you decided a long time ago you wanted to be a min wage laborer

I decided I wanted to become a lawyer but couldn't afford to go to law school, and wasn't allowed to take the bar exam without a law degree.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:55 PM
 
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Wait, you left something out.

How/where did he get the money to start multiple companies? I've had several business ideas but never any meaningful amount of money to actually start them.

And if he started businesses with funds earned with his law degree, well, I prepared for law school but couldn't afford to actually go to law school.
When he graduated he went to work for one of the large accounting firms and he brought in so many clients that he decided to leave. When he left they let him take clients with him. So essentially his reputation paid for his first company. After that it was smooth sailing. Partnerships, LLC's, investors, etc. One of the companies he ran was the company that brought McD's POS system to the market and another had something to do with photo equipment.
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Old 02-28-2013, 02:05 PM
 
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When he graduated he went to work for one of the large accounting firms and he brought in so many clients that he decided to leave. When he left they let him take clients with him. So essentially his reputation paid for his first company. After that it was smooth sailing. Partnerships, LLC's, investors, etc. One of the companies he ran was the company that brought McD's POS system to the market and another had something to do with photo equipment.

There you go...obviously not a path available to someone who couldn't afford to go to law school.
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Old 02-28-2013, 02:12 PM
 
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There you go...obviously not a path available to someone who couldn't afford to go to law school.
So why don't you work 80 hours a week, like lawyers do for a decade and save up for law school so that you can go to law school and work 80 hours a week again so you could have financial freedom eventually in your life without needing to work so many hours?
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