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Old 02-06-2014, 01:05 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Clinton was a great president; George W Bush was a historically bad one.

 
Old 02-06-2014, 01:18 AM
 
Location: Past: midwest, east coast
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Well the '90s were the last time America was truly a strong country and the leader of the world. George W. Bush was a disaster and Obama looks to be an even bigger disaster.

Many of Clinton's policies have come back to bite us (e.g. NAFTA, repealing Glass-Steagall, etc.) and he did demean the office with the whole Lewinsky thing. That was truly a slap on the face of the American people and hurt the country's reputation. I still can't believe the President of the greatest country in the world (at the time at least) did that.
 
Old 02-06-2014, 08:30 AM
 
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I think he was the last better than average one we had.
I agree with this.

I think the last great president was Eisenhower.

ETA: I think people feel that JFK was great because he was assassinated so has the prestige of "what if." In that case, I feel if RFK hadn't been assassinated he would have been a great president. I don't think that Reagan was a great president. I think he along with all his followers contributed more harm than good in American policy in regards to favoring lobbyist over true public service.
 
Old 02-06-2014, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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I think Eisenhower was the last great US president. He'd be a Democrat if he was alive today.
LMAO, yeah right!
 
Old 02-06-2014, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Clinton was worse than Obama. The slimiest politician.
Totally disagree. Clinton had a much better economy, the unemployment rate was below 5%, which is considered full employment. We weren't in a continual state of war. Clinton may not have been a great president, but he was much better than the last two clowns to hold the office(Bush II, and Obama). I'm no democrat/liberal but I would take the Clinton years in a heart beat over what we've had the last 13 years.
 
Old 02-06-2014, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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The last two good/great Presidents of the United States who exercised the real authority of the office in their own persons were General Dwight David "Ike" Eisenhower and John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

The day J.F.K. was killed the office was effectively turned into an empty suit who does the bidding of "them" or the powers that be. Both President Eisenhower and President Kennedy made speeches warning the American public about our current predicament.

I get tired of the revisonist history when it comes to Kennedy. The guy wasn't President long enough to be considered "great". And the things he did do while in office weren't all that great. 1. Bothcing the Bay of Pigs, 2. Almost starting WW3/nuclear war with the soviets, 3. Getting us involved in Vietnam. And oh yeah, people always bring up Clintons sex scandals, go look up JFK sexcapades along with the rest of his scum bag family.
 
Old 02-06-2014, 10:41 AM
 
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Clinton was a great president; George W Bush was a historically bad one.
Yeah but what would Bill Clinton have done after 9/11?
 
Old 02-06-2014, 10:47 AM
 
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I find it pathetic people think getting a blow job at work was so bad? Really??? What about all of your state officials , mayors, governors , and other government entities??? All the drugs , money laundering , sex abuse, paid hooked etc. Too much stupid in this country.
 
Old 02-06-2014, 11:43 AM
 
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Yeah but what would Bill Clinton have done after 9/11?
Something different and better than Bush and Cheney did. That whole administration, even Powell, should be tried, convicted and executed for war crimes.
 
Old 02-06-2014, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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You're joking right?
My thoughts exactly. I don't think he was a bad President, but holy cow, how could anyone put him the category of great? He has probably done more since leaving office. About the only really good thing he did was learn to work with the other side, just Like RR knew how to work with both sides. Clinton's personal life alone, has to be considered. No, I normally do not judge based on personal issues, but in his case, if even 1/2 of the allegations are true he is a slum bag at best.

Aedubbuer; it is a lot more than a simple blow job in the office; it is sexual harassment (did you forget about Paula Jones) just to mention one instance. We are not even talking about a guy who has sex kittens like JFK, we are talking serious allegations.

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