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Ross perot is hardly representative of the GOP and big business, so FAIL. See my subsequent post in which I provide the numbers by party who voted for these trade deals. Hint: the GOP supported both Nafta and China Act, the Democrats rejected both (in the House). As far as which party receives the most contributions from corporate America, that is not even in dispute--at least for anyone with access to a search engine.
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Originally Posted by katygirl68
1) That's not true. Both parties get donations from big business. and
2) Clinton was the president. He not only signed NAFTA into law and increased trade with China, he also fought very hard for those programs. Go to youtube and watch Al Gore and Ross Perot debate NAFTA. Perot was absolutely right in that debate, but the media treated like a bumpkin who was schooled by Al Gore. Al Gore was absolutely insufferable in that debate - a condescending d-bag who was absolutely wrong, as time has shown.
Something different and better than Bush and Cheney did. That whole administration, even Powell, should be tried, convicted and executed for war crimes.
Yes. And I'm a conservative libertarian. I don't agree with him on everything, but him and his republican congress made a great team in creating a surplus
Ross perot is hardly representative of the GOP and big business, so FAIL. See my subsequent post in which I provide the numbers by party who voted for these trade deals. Hint: the GOP supported both Nafta and China Act, the Democrats rejected both (in the House). As far as which party receives the most contributions from corporate America, that is not even in dispute--at least for anyone with access to a search engine.
I know the GOP wanted NAFTA and the China Act. My point was that Clinton, a Democratic president when these acts were passed and the topic of the OP, not only signed those deals into law, he actively fought for them. He had the power to stop those agreements from becoming law, and he didn't do that. Instead, his administration did what they could to get those trade deals.
I never said Ross Perot was representative of the GOP, so I have no clue what you're talking about. I only mentioned Perot in the context of Clinton's Vice President debating Perot on the very topic of NAFTA. Perot correctly said that without forcing the other countries to pay equitable wages to workers as American companies, there would be a giant sucking sound of jobs going to other countries. As a billionaire businessman himself, Perot actually knew whereof he spoke.
If the true intent of the trade deal was to raise Mexico up and make North America more competitive with the new European Union, then it would have been better to have those guarantees. Of course, the China deal was just a bad deal all around, except for the Chinese government and corporations. Now we get cheaper prices on goods, but the goods aren't good (better for them and businesses as a consumer economy must continue to buy new gadgets). I remember all the politicians and think tanks saying we were moving from a manufacturing economy to the brains behind the economy, all the while forgetting that not everyone in America is able to work in high tech or finance or the housing market (and look how that turned out?). There is an increase in immigrants to take the leftover jobs available to those people. If you don't think that's true, try getting a job on a construction crew, window washing, landscaping service, garbage collection, etc. in a border state if you're a non-Spanish speaking white or black. Now they've outsourced manufacturing, call centers, etc., and there's even a push to increase visas for foreigners to take the "brainy" jobs we were supposed to get from all those free trade agreements.
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