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Old 02-20-2013, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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I don't mean to start a fight, I apologize.

I am sincerely flabbergasted that these thoughts perpetuate our society, and don't understand the logic behind it.
I think the spirit of your original post has merit. I happen to believe conception is the beginning of a new human life and to end it unnaturally unless it is the result of a crime, is itself a crime against humanity.

But most social conservative positions are contrary to my preference for a small government.

What amazes me is the social activism promoted by many on the left. What is different about hate speech from other free speech? Why is murder because the killer "hated" the victim any different than killing them for any other reason? Why does the government try to modify our behavior through taxes?
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:58 PM
 
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I think the spirit of your original post has merit. I happen to believe conception is the beginning of a new human life and to end it unnaturally unless it is the result of a crime, is itself a crime against humanity.

But most social conservative positions are contrary to my preference for a small government.

What amazes me is the social activism promoted by many on the left. What is different about hate speech from other free speech? Why is murder because the killer "hated" the victim any different than killing them for any other reason? Why does the government try to modify our behavior through taxes?
These are good points.... but don't hold your breath waiting for a rational or remotely logical reply from the leftwing nutjobs
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:59 PM
 
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No thats not it and you know it. You are a social conservative because you feel its the best way to get your bible laws put in place for USA laws. You want to see people be forced to live as you want to see them live. I.E. no porn, no evolution, your particular prayer in public schools, no abortion, The bible taught as the word of god and inerrant, the earth is 6k years old, Jesus was risen from the dead and born of a virgin, Gays are evil, bla bla bla. That is what you want and you will never get it. You will never get no sex before marriage, no birth control, abortion illegal. You and your nut bar groups will never get what you want. Not now not ever. Suck it up teapot.
The constitution is the law of the land, not the bible. What is so hard for the right wingers to realize that?
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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I don't get it either. The GOP alienates too many voters with worrying about social issues when the financial issues are the ones of real merit (IMO).
Democrats ran on social issues in 2012. Romney wasn't talking about them.

Republicans have to compromise on gay marriage. That is the only way they will ever make any inroads with millennials.
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:04 PM
 
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Democrats ran on social issues in 2012. Romney wasn't talking about them.

Republicans have to compromise on gay marriage. That is the only way they will ever make any inroads with millennials.
Actually, the Dems ran on nothing more than smearing the other guy and lying constantly in the tv media which they control.....it didnt hurt that Romney was a bad candidate though....

I agree with you on gay marriage though......
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:08 PM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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Honestly, I don't think I became much of a social conserative until I actually looked at what the alternative that the Democrats were offering.

I use to actually agree with the manta of women "owning their own bodies" until I observed them fighting tooth and nail to keep partial and late term abortions legal. I don't know how anyone with a conscious can actually defend a position like that. Thank god for Rick Santorum on that one.
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:22 PM
 
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Honestly, I don't think I became much of a social conserative until I actually looked at what the alternative that the Democrats were offering.

I use to actually agree with the manta of women "owning their own bodies" until I observed them fighting tooth and nail to keep partial and late term abortions legal. I don't know how anyone with a conscious can actually defend a position like that. Thank god for Rick Santorum on that one.

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You are well within your rights to not get a late term abortion. But why should another women conform to your beliefs?

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Old 02-20-2013, 04:27 PM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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You are well within your rights to not get a late term abortion. But why should another women conform to your beliefs?
Sorry, but I simply can't support murdering babies, I don't care if anyone disagrees with that.

Late term abortions and partial-abortions are archaic and inhumane in my eyes.

You and and every woman since Eve are free to disagree with that. But given the choice, I will continue to vote against it.

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Old 02-20-2013, 04:39 PM
 
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Sorry, but I simply can't support murdering babies, I don't care if anyone disagrees with that.

Late term abortions and partial-abortions are archaic and inhumane in my eyes.
See, this shows capability for rational thought.

Unlike both hardcore social conservatives and liberals, who rely on their own forms of dogma and have nothing but platitudes to use in their arguments (and not just in this case), you are able to make a logical judgement.

Agreed, and repped.

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As for abortion, most people are against it, as I am EXCEPT for cases of rape or health. The logic here would be why kill a child? Why reward this type of irresponsiblity Unless there is a rape, where it is not the womans fault.
This is another position I will never understand. Is it okay to kill children of rape, but not okay to kill regular children? It's either a living thing, or a clump of cells, resulting from rape or not.

In cases of health, it's one life or another, so I can't disagree there.
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:20 PM
 
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How can anyone be a social conservative?

How can you believe that dinosaurs and humans existed at the same time?

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How can you be against a woman having the right to her own body?

How can you be against a woman having the right to her own body in the case of rape or incest?

How can you be against two people who love each other getting married like the rest of us?

How can you say you want government out of our lives, but believe these things?

If this country had any brains (which it doesn't) it would be libertarian.
Any conservative leanings, social or fiscal, are a mistake. We've been living through that mistake for 30 years.
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