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Old 03-03-2013, 11:36 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Originally Posted by ellemint
Why would anyone need a gun like that?


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Sport

Competition
It is not about needs or hunting.

It is called the bill of rights, not the bill of needs.

 
Old 03-03-2013, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Old 03-03-2013, 01:54 PM
 
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Reducing your right to own a high-capacity firing weapon does not restrict your civil rights. Why would anyone need a gun like that? And don't say to stave off droves of highly armed invaders of your home. I saw Biden state on the news that the White House tried to find even ONE instance in the U.S. of a home being invaded by multiple intruders with high-capacity weapons. They could not find even one.

Thanks for proven the entire point of the left.....

So, now WHY do you want to ban hi-cap magazines if they have ZERO to do with anything?

I'll tell ya why, because it's a talking point....a straw man, to prove a point....
 
Old 03-03-2013, 03:53 PM
 
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they must have been looking for that story with blinders on, because one has already been listed. I wonder if we should send the story on to biden so he can correct himself on national tv.

Can you provide a link to that?
 
Old 03-03-2013, 03:57 PM
 
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Thanks for proven the entire point of the left.....

So, now WHY do you want to ban hi-cap magazines if they have ZERO to do with anything?

I'll tell ya why, because it's a talking point....a straw man, to prove a point....
Because according to the Justice Department when high-capacity magazines were banned the percentage of crime guns using large capacity magazines declined from 18% in 1999 (when magazine imports were highest) to its lowest level in 2004 (10% of crime guns had large capacity magazines). The percentage doubled between 2004, when the ban expired, and 2010.

The research results are mixed, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to prevent the next Newtown.


http://www.nraila.org/media/10883516...olicy-memo.pdf
 
Old 03-03-2013, 04:05 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Because according to the Justice Department when high-capacity magazines were banned the percentage of crime guns using large capacity magazines declined from 18% in 1999 (when magazine imports were highest) to its lowest level in 2004 (10% of crime guns had large capacity magazines). The percentage doubled between 2004, when the ban expired, and 2010.

The research results are mixed, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to prevent the next Newtown.


http://www.nraila.org/media/10883516...olicy-memo.pdf
Here is the important part of that section you keep overlooking. You keep posting the same nonsense, cherry picking one area that fits your agenda and skip everything else. Then when I call you on two pages ago you don't reply and then just post the same thing again. Your act is tired, you don't have a leg to stand on so you just keep reporting the same garbage, over and over again.

"In order to have an impact, large capacity magazine regulation needs to sharply curtail their availability to include restrictions on importation, manufacture, sale, and possession. An exemption for previously owned magazines would nearly eliminate any impact. The program would need to be coupled with an extensive buyback of existing large capacity magazines. With an exemption the impact of the restrictions would only be felt when the magazines degrade or when they no longer are compatible with guns in circulation. This would take decades to realize."
 
Old 03-03-2013, 05:06 PM
 
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Because according to the Justice Department when high-capacity magazines were banned the percentage of crime guns using large capacity magazines declined from 18% in 1999 (when magazine imports were highest) to its lowest level in 2004 (10% of crime guns had large capacity magazines). The percentage doubled between 2004, when the ban expired, and 2010.

The research results are mixed, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to prevent the next Newtown.

http://www.nraila.org/media/10883516...olicy-memo.pdf
Again,

Could this possibly have anything to do with the fact that more guns happened to have large capacity magazines? How does this establish anything relevant?

If someone wants a large capacity magazine, they will get one. Whether they're legal, grandfathered, or banned completely and confiscated. Or they'll take the extra ~2 seconds to reload a couple of times.
 
Old 03-03-2013, 05:15 PM
 
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Here is the important part of that section you keep overlooking. You keep posting the same nonsense, cherry picking one area that fits your agenda and skip everything else. Then when I call you on two pages ago you don't reply and then just post the same thing again. Your act is tired, you don't have a leg to stand on so you just keep reporting the same garbage, over and over again.

"In order to have an impact, large capacity magazine regulation needs to sharply curtail their availability to include restrictions on importation, manufacture, sale, and possession. An exemption for previously owned magazines would nearly eliminate any impact. The program would need to be coupled with an extensive buyback of existing large capacity magazines. With an exemption the impact of the restrictions would only be felt when the magazines degrade or when they no longer are compatible with guns in circulation. This would take decades to realize."
Yes, that is what that particular memo states. The above paragraph is just the speculation of the Deputy Director who wrote the memo. He doesn't know if that would be the case, he's just speculating.

It doesn't change the fact that when high-capacity magazines were banned in 1999 the percentage of crime guns using large capacity magazines declined to its lowest level in 2004, and then doubled again between 2004 and 2010 after the ban expired.



http://www.nraila.org/media/10883516...olicy-memo.pdf
 
Old 03-03-2013, 05:20 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The OP would freakout on my 15 yo. daughter. She has been dove hunting for 10 years straight. She got her Savage .410 pump when she was 5 yo.

On her 10th birthday, she got her .223 semi-auto and we scoped it out(wood stock, not the black scary one) She took her first deer that season. Yes she has the 30 round mag for it and a 50 rounder.
The day after last thanksgiving, she calls me at 7am to meet her in the barn, and she needed an ice chest.... Her and her cousin got up and went hunting, had the deer tagged, skinned and quartered.

This Christmas she got her a .38 police issue.

These guns are hers and they stay in her room, in her gun safe.


She told me her next gun is going to be a black powder musket. She wants to hunt with it. Her rifle is like going to the supermarket and she wants the challenge.
 
Old 03-03-2013, 05:21 PM
 
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Yes, that is what that particular memo states. The above paragraph is just the speculation of the Deputy Director who wrote the memo. He doesn't know if that would be the case, he's just speculating.

It doesn't change the fact that when high-capacity magazines were banned in 1999 the percentage of crime guns using large capacity magazines declined to its lowest level in 2004, and then doubled again between 2004 and 2010 after the ban expired.
Hey! You there!?

This proves absolutely nothing except that fewer people had high capacity magazines. This does not change the fact that if someone wants one, they can get one. And people who intend to commit crimes that are made easier with high capacity magazines, might want high capacity magazines.

For any random shooting, where a guy just picks up whatever gun he can get his hands on, who gives a damn if they have a high capacity magazine if they only let off a couple of rounds?

If he wanted a high capacity magazine, he would get one.

Logic 101, come on now.
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