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Old 03-01-2013, 12:32 PM
 
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Because you saw it on TV? LOL. I get my information from the sources.

This is you on the right, that's me on the left:


Lord Monckton destroys Greenpeace noob - YouTube
That little video pretty much sums many of the global warmers. Well duh I read its warming, I read the sea ice is melting, I read the hurricanes are everywhere so it must be true!!
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:46 PM
 
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The Acid Rain scare has now been exposed as one of the largest scams in history. In 1980, the U.S. Federal Government launched the National Acid Precipitation Assessment Program (NAPAP), employing 700 hundred scientists at a cost of $500 million. The NAPAP study found that Acid Rain was non-threatening to the environment or humans. It was mainly a affected 2% of lake surface in the Adirondacks, which was made less acidic with cheap and quick liming. Human activity improving the environment? Imagine that.
Idiocy from somebody who doesn't live upstream from the US Eastern Seaboard. I grew up in Nova Scotia, downwind from the eastern half of North America. Don't believe in acid rain?

Come on over for a visit, where many rivers that used to have good salmon runs now have nothing because salmon are extremely vulnerable to lowered pH.

Come on over and see our stunted and dead pine and fur trees that line the roads.

Things have improved in recent years - slowly. And I credit this precisely to the EPA's efforts in the US to limit emissions of acid-rain forming compounds.

Ugh. So much ignorance. It amounts to "if I can't see it, it isn't happening!!!!11!!1!!1!!"
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:53 PM
 
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Global warming is real, humans having any effect on global warming is debatable. But my concern is with trying not to pollute our water, air, and food supply....the three things humans need to survive.

I have the same perspective. We will, and have, adapted to climate change which means some places will be too hot while others too cold will now be warmer. Even if we are not a cause, the climate will change. The air and water pollution is not debatable. Mercury, lead and PCBs are not debatable.
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:06 PM
 
Location: NC
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A peer reviewed evaluation of geoscientists and engineers has determined that the majority are skeptical of the concept of man made global warming.

So much for the left wing loons and their belief in "science"

Peer-Reviewed Survey Finds Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Crisis - Forbes
When you actually narrow the field down from asking cherrypicked "engineers" and anyone who claims to be a "geoscientist" to published scientists and and published climatologists the results are one sided.

99% of climatologists agree global warming is manmade | MNN - Mother Nature Network
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:09 PM
 
Location: NC
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Idiocy from somebody who doesn't live upstream from the US Eastern Seaboard. I grew up in Nova Scotia, downwind from the eastern half of North America. Don't believe in acid rain?

Come on over for a visit, where many rivers that used to have good salmon runs now have nothing because salmon are extremely vulnerable to lowered pH.

Come on over and see our stunted and dead pine and fur trees that line the roads.

Things have improved in recent years - slowly. And I credit this precisely to the EPA's efforts in the US to limit emissions of acid-rain forming compounds.

Ugh. So much ignorance. It amounts to "if I can't see it, it isn't happening!!!!11!!1!!1!!"
I agree it is complete idiocy from someone who has never lived in or around the appalachians. There are plenty of places could go from New England to North Carolina and see the effects of acid rain. There was a while where acid rain killed entire forests on Mount Mitchell.
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:19 PM
 
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Idiocy from somebody who doesn't live upstream from the US Eastern Seaboard. I grew up in Nova Scotia, downwind from the eastern half of North America. Don't believe in acid rain?

Come on over for a visit, where many rivers that used to have good salmon runs now have nothing because salmon are extremely vulnerable to lowered pH.

Come on over and see our stunted and dead pine and fur trees that line the roads.

Things have improved in recent years - slowly. And I credit this precisely to the EPA's efforts in the US to limit emissions of acid-rain forming compounds.

Ugh. So much ignorance. It amounts to "if I can't see it, it isn't happening!!!!11!!1!!1!!"
I streetviewed much of Nova Scotia with the recent imagery. So far, I call chicken little. Unlike OhioRules, I live on the eastern seaboard too, a couple states downwind from you. The salmon, trout, and bass are all fine here, as well as the forests of the Appalachians. Stop with the confirmation bias semantics
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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That is not true that they would not receive funding if they provided evidence that man-made climate change does not exist. Indeed, if a scientist was able to present strong data that that was the case, he or she would become famous over -night. Science builds step-by-step. When so much evidence, whether drawn from ocean temperature, or shrinking of the ice-caps, all indicate the same thing, it becomes foolhardy to ignore it.

Of course the U.S. is famous for its ignorance. What can you say about a country in which something like 40 % of the populace don't accept the evidence of evolution? (the highest rate in the world other than Turkey).

Yep, for me it is like flipping a nickel 100 times and having it come up heads 97 times and tails 3 times. I tend to go with the weight of evidence. Viewed objectively, it is highly unlikely that that is not a loaded nickel. The conservative partisans, in contrast, take those three tails findings and copy and paste them all over the internet. When you have no interest in the truth, it is easy to find what you want to find.
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:31 PM
 
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When you actually narrow the field down from asking cherrypicked "engineers" and anyone who claims to be a "geoscientist" to published scientists and and published climatologists the results are one sided.

99% of climatologists agree global warming is manmade | MNN - Mother Nature Network
ROFL, now it's 99% and they arrive at that by deducting the number of scientists that signed some petition stating they didn't believe in AGW?

The lower number of 97% they mention later in the article is 77 scientists..... bahahaha...

Again that is the only the tip of the iceberg where the issues with that study start.
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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A peer reviewed evaluation of geoscientists and engineers has determined that the majority are skeptical of the concept of man made global warming.

So much for the left wing loons and their belief in "science"

Peer-Reviewed Survey Finds Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Crisis - Forbes
You know James Taylor is a bought-and-paid-for hack for the climate change denial industry, right? No?

So much for right-wing loons bring able to distinguish between credible and non-credible sources.
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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A "management" journal?

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