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Old 03-29-2013, 10:07 AM
 
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Judaism also demands that we not work on Shabbos (also carries a death penalty according to the Torah), however more than 80 of American jews do so.

most Jews don't follow Judaism but atheism.

 
Old 03-29-2013, 10:09 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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So much from principles. Those that can change fundamental beliefs so easily for political reasons are frauds and the worst kind of people to have in DC. You either have principles and beliefs that you stand by and don't change for political benefit or you don't.
Are you asking the same questions about GOP office holders, many of whom are running as fast as they can to endorse same-sex marriage? I don't see you doing that.

Many people do change their beliefs/positions as they learn/experience more. I doubt you're one such person.
 
Old 03-29-2013, 10:23 AM
 
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Couldn't have said it better. We as a nation are now embracing what we once thought inconceivable years ago. For instance, I tell my neighbor not to worry about pedophiles so much, or whether or not the prison system is releasing them into our area. I simply tell him to cool down and relax, because pedophilia is only a decade or two away from legalization anyway, just as homosexuality once was.

Justice for all, and it's about time!

So now gay people who are legally married and want to be able to file their taxes jointly are the same as embracing pedophiles who rape little kids and violent criminals running loose in your neighborhood?

Do you get hysterical and irrational much?
 
Old 03-29-2013, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Old 04-23-2013, 09:03 PM
 
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Flashback: Remember when Democrats swore they opposed same-sex marriage? « Hot Air

Video at link.




And get this quote from non other than Hillary Clinton:

" I take umbrage at anyone who might suggest that those of us who worry about amending the Constitution are less committed to the sanctity of marriage, or the fundamental bedrock principle that it exists between a man and a woman going back into the mists of history, as one of the founding foundational institutions of history and humanity and civilization, and that its primary, principle role during those millennia has been the raising and socializing of children for the society in which they are to become adults.”

So much from principles. Those that can change fundamental beliefs so easily for political reasons are frauds and the worst kind of people to have in DC. You either have principles and beliefs that you stand by and don't change for political benefit or you don't.
Excellent point, and fitting quote to assert it.

Yes, we should respect people and yes, rights are important... but ALL rights, not just those with the homosexual fetish disorder. Statistics from the US CDC (STDs, AIDs, & mental illness among those with homosexual fetishes) proves it is a harmful disorder. We don't usually give rights based on disorders, but rather TREATMENT. I can hear it already, people not wanting to hear this... It's like people who are sick not wanting to go to the doctor, because they don't want to hear the truth about their sickness, and call the doctor, "basher."

I trust that those who sincerely want to be happy, which is based on truth, not lies, will find the truth for themselves, instead of shoot the messenger.
 
Old 04-23-2013, 09:08 PM
 
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Intelligent people are able to change their viewpoints when new data becomes available.
What "new data"??
The APA never collected any scientific research to change the definition of homosexuality.
They kept getting harassed by homosexual lobbyists, until finally, they gave in.
The Born "Gay" Hoax |

Even homosexual researchers acknowledge there is no such thing as a gay gene...
Homosexual Researchers Debunk ‘Born Gay’ Urban Legend
At birth, our brains are only 25% developed. This makes us less intelligent at birth than many other mamals, however it ends up in our best interest because along with more caregiving support, we are better able to adapt to environmental influences. Under various circumstances, some such adaptations result in the development of homosexual fetishes.

The truth is that dishonorable people are able to change their viewpoints when peer pressure asks them to.
 
Old 04-23-2013, 09:11 PM
 
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If you don't agree with gay marriage then do not marry someone of the same sex. Problem solved.
I wish it were that simple, but it isn't & I find your ignor-ance disturbing.

The homosexual fetish herd has disregarded others' rights, so they can push their agenda...

Children have the right to not be taught homosexuality in school. Yet, in places where homosexual fetish marriage has been supported, these rights have been infringed upon...
*Freshmen were told not to tell their parents about a pro-gay seminar & were required to sign a confidentiality agreement (Derrfield, Illinois Mar. 2007).
*In March, 2007, a Massachusetts high school banned parents from attending a seminar for students on how they can know they are homosexual.
*In October, 2008, First graders (6 year-old students) were taken on a field trip to watch their lesbian teacher's wedding.
*In Oct 2008, a Hayward CA public elementary school celebrated "Coming Out Day."

Normalizing & even encouraging children to explore homosexuality obviously causes more to experiment with homosexuality.
"The Legal Liability Associated with Homosexuality Education in Schools... This report is part of an integrated strategy to inform and educate parents, students and school officials across the nation of its contents and of their respective rights and duties. It has documented the concern that the health of students in many schools across the country may have been compromised and their First Amendment rights may have been denied."
http://www.afamichigan.org/images/Legal ... 200504.pdf

Some in the homosexual fetish activist group have bluntly admitted that their eventual goal is to normalize pedophilia and inappropriate adult-child sexual relations.

Many have been harassed by the homosexual fetish herd, without public notice, but some have been public, like Chick Filay and a Miss America contestant, both who voiced their support for marriage between a man and a woman.
Other examples include...
*In April 2008, an Albuquerque photographer was fined over $6,000 for refusing to be hired to photograph a lesbian couple's commitment ceremony.
*In May, 2008, a black administrator was fired from the U of Toledo, Ohio, for writing an editorial objecting to the comparison of black discrimination to same-sex marriage.
*An intolerant opponent of Proposition 8 violently attacked & injured a Proposition supporter in Oct. 2008.
*On November 19, 2008, eHarmony, a Christian-based matching service was forced by New Jersey's Division on Civil Rights to provide website matching services for homosexuals.
 
Old 04-23-2013, 09:19 PM
 
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Why do you worry so much about something that doesn't have any effect on your life, and harms no one?

These threads are getting tiresome. The country is moving towards "liberty and justice for ALL". Sorry that you don't like it.



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Old 04-23-2013, 09:24 PM
 
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Our country is moving toward...
"Special" liberty and justice for those with homosexual fetishes... and screw everybody else.
And yes, there is reason to be sorry.

Homosexuality is not ever truly sex but involves fetishes, because sex involves the sexual organs of each, and homosexuality must resort to subsitutes... fetishes. (Fetish: any object or nongenital part of the body that causes a habitual erotic response or fixation. ) Anal sex is such a fetish. Some fetishes cause no harm, but unfortunately anal sex can cause anal fissures, anal cancer, colon rupture and bacterial infections.

According to the United States Center for Disease Control (US CDC), those with homosexual fetishes are many times more likely to contract STDs than heterosexuals. http://www.cdc.gov/stdconference/2000/m ... ay2000.htm

According to the United States Center for Disease Control (US CDC), those with homosexual fetishes are many times more likely to contract AIDS than heterosexuals. http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm

Also According to the United States Center for Disease Control (US CDC), those with homosexual fetishes are more likely to develop mental illness. Research also has found that, compared to other men, MSM are at increased risk of: Major depression during adolescence and adulthood; Bipolar disorder; and Generalized anxiety disorder during adolescence and adulthood. MSM are also at greater risk for other health threats that often occur in conjunction with mental health problems (i.e., co-morbidities). These include greater use of illegal drugs and a greater risk for suicide.

I guess it is liberty - they can choose to engage in harmful behavior.
I guess it is justice - they get to experience the consequences of it.
What is not liberty and justice are lies that pretend that the practice of homosexual fetishes is not harmful, and insisting that everyone else embrace their lies.
 
Old 04-23-2013, 09:31 PM
 
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Why do you worry so much about something that doesn't have any effect on your life, and harms no one?

These threads are getting tiresome. The country is moving towards "liberty and justice for ALL". Sorry that you don't like it.
I hope all Americans become gay.
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