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View Poll Results: Should Christian business owners who refuse to support gay marriage be shut down by the government?
Yes 16 13.11%
No 106 86.89%
Voters: 122. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-28-2013, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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The gay marriage fight is almost over, and conservatives have not only lost but lost big. Same sex marriage will soon be a reality in America. The fight isn't over though.

The next culture war is certain to be whether traditional Christians can own businesses and if so, can they run their business by those values. For instance, could a Christian photographer refuse to photograph a gay wedding? Can a Christian bakery refuse to bake a gay wedding cake? Most people would probably say they could not, and that if somebody is going to own a business, they should support same sex marriage. A photographer refusing to photograph a gay wedding is the same as a 'No Blacks Allowed' cafeteria.

There is the position though that a business-owner of a private business should be able to run their business the way they choose and serve the customers of their choice and refuse the customers of their choice. The free market should then decide who stays in business and who closes. This is the less popular position.

Should business owners be forced to support same sex marriage or be shut down by the government? Please refrain from name-calling and stereotyping and discuss this issue.
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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As long as the private business does not supply a public service, it can easily say "no" to any clientele it wants to.
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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The government it's self should have nothing to do with it. It's the courts that should deal with any fallout.If a person was refused service because of sexual identity that person can sue for damages.
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:08 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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No liberal brown shirts have stopped by to vote in this poll yet?

It's funny how leftist secularist commandos are always complaining about religious people forcing their beliefs on others yet these secularists would have no problem forcing their secular views on people of faith by advocating for the government shutting down their businesses if they do not run those businesses in a manner that appeases secularism but violates the tenets of their faith.

Like I said......liberal brown shirts!
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:10 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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I'm a "liberal brown shirt" and I voted No, as would 99.9999% of other liberals.

Go find another strawman.
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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No liberal brown shirts have stopped by to vote in this poll yet?
>Brown shirts
>Not brown coats



Also, apparently my liberal vote for "no" doesn't count.

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Old 03-28-2013, 06:21 PM
 
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People can refuse service for any reason at all.

People can also refuse to shop at your store for any reason.

Just don't complain people aren't shopping at your store if they don't like your politics.

I am a huge proponent of gay rights, and equality for all people.

I would also like to see proof of these "shills" being paid by some one, I have never seen any proof of shills for any accusation.
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:27 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Here we go again-- People need to understand what a public accommodation is.

If you operate a restaurant open to the general public, you must serve the general public in an non-discriminatory manner. You cannot refuse to serve blacks, the disabled, Jews, gays or any other minority group if you are "open to the public" regardless of your belief system. (And if you are a business owner with half a brain, why would you?)

So if you want to not serve people who offend your Christian values, don't open a business that is provides public accommodation.
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Originally Posted by Declan's Dad View Post
No liberal brown shirts have stopped by to vote in this poll yet?

It's funny how leftist secularist commandos are always complaining about religious people forcing their beliefs on others yet these secularists would have no problem forcing their secular views on people of faith by advocating for the government shutting down their businesses if they do not run those businesses in a manner that appeases secularism but violates the tenets of their faith.

Like I said......liberal brown shirts!
I'm not even a liberal and you sound like a complete nut job. Conservatism is a mental illness...
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:31 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Let's turn it around: do you conservatives believe that the government should have the right to shut down a gay florist for refusing to serve a heterosexual Christian couple?
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