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Ridiculous comment.
When you start using your god thingie, you open all doors and windows for comment.
Marriage was an "institution" way before the US was a country.
Do you have an obsessive-compulsive illness about using the phrase 'god thingie.' I didn't come close to using god. The Bible is as irrelevant to me as what happened in Egypt 4,000 years ago to form an opinion about ssm.
Exactly. I would agree to civil unions between any two people, maybe even more, this could be used in a variety of other situations also allowing certain legal rights and benefits for those individuals. They want it called "marriage" because many have a complex and were brought up to believe the lifestyle that they are living is a sin and even if they don't, a lot of those people around them do.
Uh nope. They want to get married for the same range of reasons that heterosexual couples do. You are projecting.
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Originally Posted by AnywhereElse
Unfortunately, changing the laws of man will not change the laws of God. Marriage is between a man and a woman. They will continue to insist upon the term marriage because they believe it will normalize their activities/lifestyles. Seriously, has anyone heard an argument for why the agenda demands the word "marriage" if rights would be the same because I haven't.
This is about secular civil laws, not the 'laws' of your particular religion. If you don't like same-sex marriage, don't marry someone of the same-sex. It's that simple.
If you wouldn't like other people to force their religious 'laws' on you, don't try to force your religious 'laws' on others who don't believe what you believe.
Look. If a man lies with a male as with a woman, it is a perversion. It follows that if a man married a male as a man would marry a woman, it would be a perversion too.
Willfull ignorance, hate and prejudice are perversions.
I thought you claim to be a Christian?
So why aren't you following the teachings of Christ? Notice the bolded words? I see none of that in your posts.
John 13:34-35
“A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
“By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”
Mark 12:28-31
"The second is this, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”
Romans 13:8-10
Let, no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law. The commandments, “Do not commit adultery,” “Do not murder,” “Do not steal,” “Do not covet", and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no harm to its neighbor.
Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
1 John 4:18:
Jesus said: "There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love. We love, because He first loved us.
1 John 4:16-21
God is love, and the one who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. By this, love is perfected with us, so that we may have confidence in the day of judgment; because as He is, so also are we in this world.
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love. We love, because He first loved us.
If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen. And this commandment we have from Him, that the one who loves God should love his brother also.
Look. If a man lies with a male as with a woman, it is a perversion. It follows that if a man married a male as a man would marry a woman, it would be a perversion too.
They want it called "marriage" because many have a complex and were brought up to believe the lifestyle that they are living is a sin and even if they don't, a lot of those people around them do.
I don't have a complex. I want to call what I have a "marriage" because it's what it's called when two people love each other, want to make a permanent commitment to each other to build a life together, and want to have their permanent commitment recognized not only by the law but also by the community.
That's what a marriage is.
And in case you're wondering, from reading my comment you can't tell what the sex of the person I'm "married" to is.
This is about secular civil laws, not the 'laws' of your particular religion. If you don't like same-sex marriage, don't marry someone of the same-sex. It's that simple.
If you wouldn't like other people to force their religious 'laws' on you, don't try to force your religious 'laws' on others who don't believe what you believe.
Quoted for emphasis. I don't know why this is such a difficult concept for some people to grasp.
Only you will find that most people have no problem with polygamy... except that it is entirely unworkable under our current laws to have more than 1+1 marriage.
Figure out how plural marriage could work first, and THEN worry about whether it can or should happen.
That isn't today's debate, however, so why don't we save our energies for when the polygamists come clamouring? If you have no independent reasons against polygamy in the future when it becomes an issue, then maybe it SHOULD be legal.
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