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I see what you're saying, but even states with stricter gun laws have guns in them. Most murders are committed with firearms---if you want to kill someone, obviously that's the method most people choose. It's hard to take them out of the equation in the U.S. because they are so prevalent. Of all homicides in 2011, 68 % were committed with firearms, 13 % with knives, 13 % with unknown or other dangerous weapons, and 6 % of them with hands,fists etc.
However, if you compare Canada to the U.S., Canada has a firearm homicide rate of 0.5 per 100,000 population, and the U.S rate is 640 % higher, at 3.2 per 100,000 per population.
Canada's overall firearm death rate which includes suicide, accidental death is 2.13 deaths per 100,000 population, vs. 10.20 deaths per 100,000 for the U.S. You could argue, well, Canada is a lot less violent, but is it less violent because it has fewer guns? It's a chicken & egg question.
There seems to be some agreement that at least some of the high level of homicide in the U.S. compared to other similar developed industrialized nations is because it has so many guns, and has relatively lax gun laws.
ok elle, since you are so adamant on your position. how about you getting the data on how many gun crimes in the USA are commited by criminals vs gun crimes done by the law abiding. I really do not care 1 whit if a criminal goes out and kills another criminal.
ok elle, since you are so adamant on your position. how about you getting the data on how many gun crimes in the USA are commited by criminals vs gun crimes done by the law abiding. I really do not care 1 whit if a criminal goes out and kills another criminal.
Uh, yeah, that's a readily available statistic ..do you realize what you just asked makes no sense?
I see what you're saying, but even states with stricter gun laws have guns in them. Most murders are committed with firearms---if you want to kill someone, obviously that's the method most people choose. It's hard to take them out of the equation in the U.S. because they are so prevalent. Of all homicides in 2011, 68 % were committed with firearms, 13 % with knives, 13 % with unknown or other dangerous weapons, and 6 % of them with hands,fists etc.
However, if you compare Canada to the U.S., Canada has a firearm homicide rate of 0.5 per 100,000 population, and the U.S rate is 640 % higher, at 3.2 per 100,000 per population.
Canada's overall firearm death rate which includes suicide, accidental death is 2.13 deaths per 100,000 population, vs. 10.20 deaths per 100,000 for the U.S. You could argue, well, Canada is a lot less violent, but is it less violent because it has fewer guns? It's a chicken & egg question.
There seems to be some agreement that at least some of the high level of homicide in the U.S. compared to other similar developed industrialized nations is because it has so many guns, and has relatively lax gun laws.
I would not equate Mexico with a developed country like the U.S., and it has of course a huge problem with drug cartels and the drug trade.
Russia, I couldn't find statistics on. Do any of you have a link? And Russia also is dissimilar to the U.S. in many regards. When you compare the U.S. to countries that are similar, in terms of development and not having civil wars etc., it's a clear outlier in terms of firearm violence.
I would not equate Mexico with a developed country like the U.S., and it has of course a huge problem with drug cartels and the drug trade.
Russia, I couldn't find statistics on. Do any of you have a link? And Russia also is dissimilar to the U.S. in many regards. When you compare the U.S. to countries that are similar, in terms of development and not having civil wars etc., it's a clear outlier in terms of firearm violence.
I don't think anyone believes "gun control" by itself is going to solve the irrational violent behavior in America. There is a lot of steps that we need to take as a nation.
I think that putting some type of additional control over the most dangerous weapon currently available to most Americans seems like a logical FIRST STEP, but that's all it is.
Honestly, discussing other countries is pointless because other countries have different cultures.
I would not equate Mexico with a developed country like the U.S., and it has of course a huge problem with drug cartels and the drug trade.
Russia, I couldn't find statistics on. Do any of you have a link? And Russia also is dissimilar to the U.S. in many regards. When you compare the U.S. to countries that are similar, in terms of development and not having civil wars etc., it's a clear outlier in terms of firearm violence.
since you like to always include the suicide rates, why not include the suicide rates of japan.
it doesnt matter if they used a firearm or not, they are still dead.
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..do you realize what you just asked makes no sense?
