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If we're too lax on immigration controls then companies would innovate in the direction of warehousing tens of thousands of chinese engineers etc. a la Foxconn until local hires were just as cheap.
That would be illegal to begin with and no Company would take that kind of expense for labor.
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If someone can clear a stringent background check I have no problem allowing anyone into the country especially if they restrict welfare benefits to citizens only.
You don't understand, that's why its so hard for Americans to emigrate elsewhere is because we give the rest of the world's people an incredibly hard time (including Britons, Germans, New Zealanders, etc). There can be some common sense here.
That has nothing to do with it. These Countries are small and cannot deal with the kind of immigration the US is allowing.
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I'm stating the fact that businesses are outsourcing the jobs, and nothing you can do to stop them. Americans should be afforded the right to work globally...and that won't happen as long as the country keeps people out, especially the citizens of our closest allies.
Again its anti liberty, anti freedom to think otherwise.
We don't need poor, peasant laborers we need educated, top level workers.
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Interesting, should Australia have the same rules as the USA when it comes to Americans ?
They already have more strict immigration rules than we do.
From where does a nation derive the right to deny entry?
You have yet to define where the right to travel anywhere is bestowed upon all people. Is it upon birth? If that is your contention, then the right to deny entry is found in the birth of nations, and their respective Constitutions/ other founding documents.
You have yet to define where the right to travel anywhere is bestowed upon all people. Is it upon birth? If that is your contention, then the right to deny entry is found in the birth of nations, and their respective Constitutions/ other founding documents.
There is no right for anyone to travel anywhere they wish. That is simply an imaginary idea put forth by those opposed to the very idea of borders and national sovereignty. Much like religion, it is simply a fairy tale and has no basis in reality.
There is no right for anyone to travel anywhere they wish. That is simply an imaginary idea put forth by those opposed to the very idea of borders and national sovereignty. Much like religion, it is simply a fairy tale and has no basis in reality.
How is it that there is no right to travel?
But there is a right to borders?
How is it that there is no right to travel?
But there is a right to borders?
From where are these rights derived?
Answer your own question.
You stated that nations do not have the right to deny entry to others.
What gives others the right to travel anywhere they wish? If you cannot answer your own question, you are simply a useless troll whose life is meaningless
There is no right for anyone to travel anywhere they wish. That is simply an imaginary idea put forth by those opposed to the very idea of borders and national sovereignty. Much like religion, it is simply a fairy tale and has no basis in reality.
There is a scripture in the Bible that denotes rights to individual properties or land and about trespassers. I wish I could remember which one it is. Of course if the one you are responding to doesn't believe in the Bible this will mean nothing to him.
Come to think of it he probably thinks we have a right to enter each other's homes at will and take up residence also. Why not, what's the difference? This is the the views of so many open borders pro-illegals also.
You stated that nations do not have the right to deny entry to others.
What gives others the right to travel anywhere they wish? If you cannot answer your own question, you are simply a useless troll whose life is meaningless
Besides if one merely wants to travel without taking up permanent residence in a foreign country there are visas and passports for that. So were is this "prevention"?
I'm of the belief that we all have the right to do as we please so long as it causes no direct harm to others.
Well your belief, just like magic jars of unicorn ****, has no place in reality.
Thankfully....
If there was no harm involved, do you believe you should just be able to walk into my house without an invitation from me? How about pitching a tent in my yard and camping there for a week or two? Think you should be able to do that?
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