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I cannot admit it's an anomaly, because if there is at least 1 company per every 2 states that treats it's employees the way Mine treats employees, that's at least 25 employers. Statistically, there would have to be more than that even, I am just using minimal figures.
You see, While I don't personally know of 10 companies, the fact is, that with as MANY employers in the U.S. as there are, statistically, there has to be a number of them that treat employees well.
Besides, in your previous post, you basically called me a liar when you said,
I sent you a direct message NAMING my employer, just as YOU asked.
Some of the benefits, right from the website job listing from my employer,
- YourWealth: 401K plan and pension plan
- YourHealth: medical, dental, vision, prescription drug, long-term disability and flexible healthcare spending accounts
- YourLiving: short-term disability, personal leave, adoption assistance and long-term care insurance
- YourCareer: mentoring and training opportunities
So, while I cannot personally name 10 employers that provide the same bennies that MY employer provides, I am sure they can be found in the lists I provided above, without without stretching credulity to fantastic lengths.
Fair enough although I wasn't calling you a liar in your own case. I'm only questioning your intellectual honesty when you infer that the majority of American workers are similarly treated. And I'm STILL calling bullsh*t on that count because I know better.
If course there are 25 companies that treat employees well...hell, there are hundreds that do so. But there are millions of working people and the majority dare I say are trying to hold on to what benefits they have.
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Balls!!! Every engineer I know ( a bunch) makes 3 times as much as some ditch digger, machine operator, non working hide in the crowd union suck wads....I loved killing a IBEW shop and hireing back no one but hard working team players and at better wages and benes then the electrical workers could offer....I happily awarded a 30 million dollar goverment project to the non union GC ... Not even prevailing wage!!! I'm proud to wear a RTW NOW sticker on my hard hat right next to the project manager sticker.....
Being a "project manager" on a room extension on your buddy's house ain't that big of a deal but if it makes you feel like a queen,have at it.
Fair enough although I wasn't calling you a liar in your own case. I'm only questioning your intellectual honesty when you infer that the majority of American workers are similarly treated. And I'm STILL calling bullsh*t on that count because I know better.
If course there are 25 companies that treat employees well...hell, there are hundreds that do so. But there are millions of working people and the majority dare I say are trying to hold on to what benefits they have.
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I disagree. There are a number of companies who take care of their employees, because they understand that taking care of their employees leads to getting better employees. I work for one such company. I have a nice salary, health insurance, Dental, vision, short and long term disability, 401K and company match AND a pension plan, Life insurance.
I never inferred there was a MAJORITY of American workers, and I agree, there are companies out there who will take advantage of workers. In fact the MAIN ones that come to mind, are ones that hire undocumented workers for ridiculously low wages and pay under the table.
There are however people like you and I, who are employed by reputable companies, who desire to get the best employees, and are willing to provide the benefits necessary to attract capable employees.
Why not strongly support unions if that's the only way you know of to find better pay and benefits? Tell me something, why would you be so incredibly wrong and foolish as to turn down a unionized job if the pay and benefits were better, especially if you have a family to support?
Because they would be like the rest of the unionized jobs here. Work themselves out of a job.
You guys love to shkw statistics of unions dropping and jobs leavi g the us. Ever wonder if the high union jobs ever left the us because of unions?
I work non union. Get paid well got $14k in raises in the last 2 years. Great benefits, full tuition reimbursement great 401k, 2 weeks sick, 2 weeks vacation anf we get a bonus every year based on company performance. Recently they just started a dual review thing where we have an opporunity for a 2nd raise each year from a different fund so our original chances for a raise don't change.
I work non union. Get paid well got $14k in raises in the last 2 years. Great benefits, full tuition reimbursement great 401k, 2 weeks sick, 2 weeks vacation anf we get a bonus every year based on company performance. Recently they just started a dual review thing where we have an opporunity for a 2nd raise each year from a different fund so our original chances for a raise don't change.
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I fail to see what this has to do with union jobs other than maybe you should thank the people who pay dues and have motivated your company to treat you fairly.
You may need an advocate someday and you won't have one. Your company could decide they are paying you too much and let you go for lack of work or something else and replace you with a young person who makes half the money.
It happens all the time. If you had a union contract you wouldn't have to worry about that.
I fail to see what this has to do with union jobs other than maybe you should thank the people who pay dues and have motivated your company to treat you fairly.
You may need an advocate someday and you won't have one. Your company could decide they are paying you too much and let you go for lack of work or something else and replace you with a young person who makes half the money.
It happens all the time. If you had a union contract you wouldn't have to worry about that.
It also doesn't happen if your work requires training and skills. I work in information technology. You cannot just take any Tom, Dick, or Mary off the street and stick them where i sit, and expect them to perform the job I perform.
It does happen if you are a fry cook at McDonalds.
I'm a conservative myself, but I don't see why? of course some unions are pointless but others are needed, it made dangerous working conditions much better for their workers, the entire reason we have a "weekend" is because of unions. This anti union rhetoric is the entire reason we are losing voters, I know most union workers are conservative value wise.
The key word is corruption. Unions are fine when they are not corrupted.
I don't like corrupt unions who collude with politicians and bureaucrats to pad their wallets with taxpayer money, special tax and regulatory waivers, and loop holes. The worst ones are the incestuous government workers unions.
I fail to see what this has to do with union jobs other than maybe you should thank the people who pay dues and have motivated your company to treat you fairly.
You may need an advocate someday and you won't have one. Your company could decide they are paying you too much and let you go for lack of work or something else and replace you with a young person who makes half the money.
It happens all the time. If you had a union contract you wouldn't have to worry about that.
Agreed, unionizing can be a great thing, as long as the union leadership and the employees don't forget that we all have a business to run, and they don't stop working together.
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Every engineer I know ( a bunch) makes 3 times as much as some ditch digger, machine operator, non working hide in the crowd union suck wads....I loved killing a IBEW shop and hireing back no one but hard working team players and at better wages and benes then the electrical workers could offer....I happily awarded a 30 million dollar goverment project to the non union GC ... Not even prevailing wage!!! I'm proud to wear a RTW NOW sticker on my hard hat right next to the project manager sticker.....
