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Old 05-16-2013, 10:04 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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A local Cincinnati TV station has found that as many as four employees of the IRS office there, may have been involved in harassing conservative groups and sending confidential information about them to liberal media outlets across two election cycles.

And though the Obama administration has been trying to paint them as "rogue" workers, the TV station quoted those employees as saying that "they simply did what their bosses ordered".

So, whom should we believe? Some hourly office workers? Or the Obama administration, which has already admitted doing things bad enought to get Richard Nixon impeached?

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Four Cincy IRS workers, not two, allegedly connected to scandal - FOX19.com-Cincinnati News, Weather & Sports

Prior to his resignation, Steven Miller called the two Cincinnati employees 'rogue' and 'off the reservation,' adding that they were 'overly aggressive' in handling the requests from those conservative groups over the past two years.

Miller also added that those two employees have already been 'disciplined' by the agency.

However, despite the claim of just two employees being involved, FOX19 has exclusively learned from two separate sources that there could be at least four Cincinnati employees involved.

One of FOX19's two sources went on say that these four IRS workers claim "they simply did what their bosses ordered." FOX19 reported on Tuesday that the report by the Office of Inspector General states that senior IRS officials knew agents were targeting Tea Party groups as early as 2011.

While the IRS is pointing at 'two rogue employees,' the number of organizations that were singled out has swelled to nearly 500, according to Rep. Congressmen Darryl Issa and Ohio's Jim Jordan.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:06 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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A local Cincinnati TV station has found that as many as four employees of the IRS office there, may have been involved in harassing conservative groups and sending confidential information about them to liberal media outlets across two election cycles.

And though the Obama administration has been trying to paint them as "rogue" workers, the TV station quoted those employees as saying that "they simply did what their bosses ordered".

So, whom should we believe? Some hourly office workers? Or the Obama administration, which has already admitted doing things bad enought to get Richard Nixon impeached?

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Four Cincy IRS workers, not two, allegedly connected to scandal - FOX19.com-Cincinnati News, Weather & Sports

Prior to his resignation, Steven Miller called the two Cincinnati employees 'rogue' and 'off the reservation,' adding that they were 'overly aggressive' in handling the requests from those conservative groups over the past two years.

Miller also added that those two employees have already been 'disciplined' by the agency.

However, despite the claim of just two employees being involved, FOX19 has exclusively learned from two separate sources that there could be at least four Cincinnati employees involved.

One of FOX19's two sources went on say that these four IRS workers claim "they simply did what their bosses ordered." FOX19 reported on Tuesday that the report by the Office of Inspector General states that senior IRS officials knew agents were targeting Tea Party groups as early as 2011.

While the IRS is pointing at 'two rogue employees,' the number of organizations that were singled out has swelled to nearly 500, according to Rep. Congressmen Darryl Issa and Ohio's Jim Jordan.
The office workers. Those people have families to feed and they will do as their boss tells them.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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A local Cincinnati TV station has found that as many as four employees of the IRS office there, may have been involved in harassing conservative groups and sending confidential information about them to liberal media outlets across two election cycles.

And though the Obama administration has been trying to paint them as "rogue" workers, the TV station quoted those employees as saying that "they simply did what their bosses ordered".
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The operative question is who were they referring to when they said "bosses?" These employees don't get calls from the White House. If 'bosses' meant higher officials at the IRS, that's not news and is consistent with the Treasury IG's report.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:15 AM
 
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The operative question is who were they referring to when they said "bosses?" These employees don't get calls from the White House. If 'bosses' meant higher officials at the IRS, that's not news and is consistent with the Treasury IG's report.
Funny, just a few hours ago you were attacking Bush because some people were sleeping together in some departments that had nothing to do with the White House...
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:16 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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"Rogue" workers are workers who do NOT do what their bosses say.

The Obama administration has been trying to tell us these are "rogue" workers.

Meaning, their higher-ups did NOT tell them to target conservatives, send confidential information to liberal media outlets, etc., and that they did it on their own.

Are you keeping up so far?

Now, here we have an article saying that their bosses DID tell them to do what they did.

Do you see the contradiction yet?

This seems to be taking some time. Would anybody like to read this post to little MTAtech? S l o w l y ?
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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In this investigation they really need to start from the ground level and go up - with subpoenas. Work our way up. I would believe ANY of these ground level workers before I believed ANY politician on Capitol Hill.

Let the **** roll up hill for once.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:34 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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In this investigation they really need to start from the ground level and go up - with subpoenas. Work our way up. I would believe ANY of these ground level workers before I believed ANY politician on Capitol Hill.

Let the **** roll up hill for once.

I'd have to agree with you.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Funny, just a few hours ago you were attacking Bush because some people were sleeping together in some departments that had nothing to do with the White House...
If you can remember way back to this morning, the post I was responding to was claiming 'nothing since Watergate is compatible.' My response was to list notable scandals during the Bush terms,which happened after Watergate and were more serious.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:54 AM
 
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Wasn't their boss when this all started Douglas Shulman a Bush appointee?


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While this was happening, several committees in Congress were writing numerous letters IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman to express concern because tea party groups were complaining of IRS harassment.


In Shulman’s responses, he did not acknowledge targeting of tea party groups. At a congressional hearing March 22, 2012, Shulman was adamant in his denials...


AP Exclusive: Watchdog report says senior IRS officials knew tea party groups targeted in 2011 - Washington Post
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Their "bosses" as in who, Little? You want it so bad to be the President. LOL...keep dreaming.
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