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Old 05-22-2013, 02:31 PM
 
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You're allowed to hold dual citizenship. Sorry to burst your bubble...
Your still comparing Apples & Oranges.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:32 PM
 
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Anchors are babies of illegals unlawfully present. As an example I presented earlier. Mexico's constitution claims them as Mexicans.
This entire country was founded on the idea of people being able to come from anywhere and settle here for a better life. You wouldn't exist if your forefathers didn't illegally break away from somewhere to settle in America.

How can you be so unAmerican as to deny that right to someone else?
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Your still comparing Apples & Oranges.
No, you're just ignorant of the facts that we have all laid out for you neatly. The legal status of the parents is irrelevant to the legal status of the child. Can you prove this not to be true?
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:33 PM
 
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Here's a link to the Constitution of the United States. The United States Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net Let me suggest, OP, that you go read the 14th Amendment, which starts out: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

You'll notice that it says absolutely nothing about a citizen's parents. It didn't take a Supreme Court ruling to make that the law of the land. It says so in plain English. It happened when the 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868. That was 145 years ago.
The 14th amendment does exempt children of foreign ministers just as it exempts everyone who is subject to another power.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Under US law, anyone born on US soil who is not the child of a foreign diplomat or alien army in hostile occupation is a natural-born US citizen.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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The 14th amendment does exempt children of foreign ministers just as it exempts everyone who is subject to another power.
I'll leave you a few things here

As in most other Central and South American countries, Mexican law differentiates between nationality and citizenship. Nationality is the attribute of the person in international law that describes their relationship to the State, whereas citizenship is given to those nationals (those who hold Mexican nationality) that have certain rights and responsibilities before the State. The 34th article of the Mexican constitution establishes that Mexican citizens are those Mexican [nationals] who are 18 years of age or older, and who have an "honest way of living"

The 37th article of the constitution establishes that Mexicans by birth (natural born Mexicans) can never be deprived of their nationality,[10] as defined in the Nationality law, the acquisition of another nationality. However, naturalized Mexicans may lose their nationality by doing the following:[10]
voluntarily acquiring another nationality, presenting themselves as foreigners or accepting nobility titles that imply a submission to a foreign state;

Even though Mexican nationals by birth may never lose their nationality, Mexican citizenship, and thus its prerogatives, may be lost if a person does the following:[10]
accepts nobility titles from foreign countries;
serves in a foreign government without the authorization of the Congress of the Union;
accepts or uses foreign distinctions, titles or functions, without the authorization of the Congress of the Union, with the exception of those that are literary, scientific or humanitarian in nature;
helps a foreign citizen or government against Mexico in any diplomatic claim or before an International Tribunal.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The 14th amendment does exempt children of foreign ministers just as it exempts everyone who is subject to another power.
As the US Supreme Court has said:

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The real object of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, in qualifying the words, "All persons born in the United States" by the addition "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof," would appear to have been to exclude, by the fewest and fittest words (besides children of members of the Indian tribes, standing in a peculiar relation to the National Government, unknown to the common law), the two classes of cases -- children born of alien enemies in hostile occupation and children of diplomatic representatives of a foreign State -- both of which, as has already been shown, by the law of England and by our own law from the time of the first settlement of the English colonies in America, had been recognized exceptions to the fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the country.

United States v. Wong Kim Ark
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:38 PM
 
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]This entire country was founded on the idea of people being able to come from anywhere and settle here for a better life. [/b] You wouldn't exist if your forefathers didn't illegally break away from somewhere to settle in America.

How can you be so unAmerican as to deny that right to someone else?
No. You are incorrect.

1795 Naturalization Act restricts citizenship to "free white persons" who reside in the United States for five years and renounce their allegiance to their former country.

1798 The Alien and Sedition Acts permit the President to deport any foreigner deemed to be dangerous.

1870 Naturalization Act limits American citizenship to "white persons and persons of African descent," barring Asians from U.S. citizenship.

1892 Ellis Island opens; serves as processing center for 12 million immigrants over the next 30 years.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Anchors are babies of illegals unlawfully present. As an example I presented earlier. Mexico's constitution claims them as Mexicans.
Guess that counts as dual citizenship.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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No. You are incorrect.

1795 Naturalization Act restricts citizenship to "free white persons" who reside in the United States for five years and renounce their allegiance to their former country.

1798 The Alien and Sedition Acts permit the President to deport any foreigner deemed to be dangerous.

1870 Naturalization Act limits American citizenship to "white persons and persons of African descent," barring Asians from U.S. citizenship.

1892 Ellis Island opens; serves as processing center for 12 million immigrants over the next 30 years.
And we haven't had a new law on immigration since 1892.
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