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Old 06-20-2013, 11:13 AM
 
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Actually we pay more for healthcare and cover less than any other country. We are currently running an inefficient system that you are supporting.
Our delivery model is monopolistic, which leads to inefficiency and higher prices, but insurance has no bearing on that.
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:13 AM
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Location: Florida
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They didn't have the 60 votes to survive a filibuster that the Republicans were threatening with. Did you not pay attention while all of this was going on?
Perhaps Fox News didn't report that aspect.
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:14 AM
 
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SO basically what I'm getting from the left is some physco babble BS, twist talking.

You lefties can say all day long, that obama really did not mean it like that “My plan begins by covering every American." If he did not mean it like that then why not come back and say that?

Or you get stupid comments like:

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Or you're just choosing to ignore the qualifications, but go on ranting and raving and refusing to admit how you're corrupting the totality of what was presented by fixating on individual words. I'm done with you.
What qualifications are you talking about, it was never put to us like that, it was sold to us as “My plan begins by covering every American."

If that's the way it was supposed to be, then why not say it like that? Or is this the part of "we have to pass it to know what's in in" BS......

This is yous lefties, tuff crap......
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:14 AM
 
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and WHO would pay for that '''public option"""


you do understand as a taxpayer...YOU CANT AFFORD SINGLE PAYER
Sure we can. Free charcoal for all. lol
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:15 AM
 
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You need 60 votes to survive a filibuster in the Senate, and these days, the Republicans love to use filibusters more than they like to take time off.

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Perhaps Fox News didn't report that aspect.
Did the bill pass or not? Pretty simple yes or no answer....
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:16 AM
 
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Actually we pay more for healthcare and cover less than any other country. We are currently running an inefficient system that you are supporting.
There are many definitions of ineffiencies.

If USA citizens and residents want to leave with social healthcare drawbacks. U know. The longer waits. The extreme restrictions of which doctors they can see. Than so be it.

Americans basically want to have their cake and eat it also.

Go spend some time at the VA system and than spend some time at a private system.

Let me know how "efficient" the government system is. It's cheaper u know. I will give you that.
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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so they went around it and used the nuclear option
That is false, the bill that passed the Senate in December 24, 2009 had 60 votes, therefore a nuclear option wasn't used.
U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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and WHO would pay for that '''public option"""


you do understand as a taxpayer...YOU CANT AFFORD SINGLE PAYER
You currently pay more than you should for less having healthcare tied to employment. To pay for Public Option would be through a tax based on your income level, and your employer wouldn't have to deduct money from your pay check to pay for a weaker healthcare insurance.

Thus is why we currently have an inefficient healthcare system.
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You currently pay more than you should for less having healthcare tied to employment. To pay for Public Option would be through a tax based on your income level, and your employer wouldn't have to deduct money from your pay check to pay for a weaker healthcare insurance.

Thus is why we currently have an inefficient healthcare system.
Sounds all nice on paper doesn't it ?

How's the current government run healthcare systems doing today ?
Medicaid and medicare are the shining examples of what would be in store.
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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That is false, the bill that passed the Senate in December 24, 2009 had 60 votes, therefore a nuclear option wasn't used.
U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote
so you admit the senate was FILIBUSTER PROOF as all 60 of those votes were dumbocrats
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