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This is a taboo issue in America but in other leftist countries like Sweden it has already become a reality. Clergy can actually be jailed over there for preaching against homosexuality. Luckily we have the First Amendment in this country preventing such a thing from happening over here. I have no doubt some liberals and some far right conservatives would like to put limits on free speech to silence those they disagree with. That is why I strongly support the second amendment despite not being much of a gun person myself. As soon as the government chips away our second amendment rights, other Constitutional rights will follow.
Felony hate speech is not something to be smirked at like you are doing here.
It's not calling someone a bad name.
It's been applied to people of all races and creeds.
Imagine someone whipping a mob into a frenzy and sicking them on the local shop keeper who is then killed by the mob.
It's what Sharpton did once early in his career.
Well there ya go, someone who get's it!
The term "hate speech" is much too loosely bandied about for lack of being accurately described.
The 'inciting to violence against an identifiable individual or group' is the cornerstone of any law formed to handle this.
It's quite alright for an individual to stand on a soapbox and scream his lungs out using less than flattering characterizations of an individual or group as long as it fits within boundaries imposed about "illegal slander". It is not however, all right for David Duke to stand on a soapbox and exhort all white people of Anglo Saxon heritage within ear shot to rush out and start a "kristalnacht" that evening.
The first example allows for you to engage each other in debate fashion where you might be expected to get back as good as you give out. The second however, foregoes reasoned discussion altogether and encourages discriminatory behaviour up to and including violence.
In 1995 a black Pentecostal Church, the United House of Prayer, which owned a retail property on 125th Street, asked Fred Harari, a Jewish tenant who operated Freddie's Fashion Mart, to evict his longtime subtenant, a black-owned record store called The Record Shack. Sharpton led a protest in Harlem against the planned eviction of The Record Shack.[36][37][38] Sharpton told the protesters, "We will not stand by and allow them to move this brother so that some white interloper can expand his business."[39]
On December 8, 1995 Roland J. Smith Jr., one of the protesters, entered Harari's store with a gun and flammable liquid, shot several customers and set the store on fire. The gunman fatally shot himself, and seven store employees died of smoke inhalation.[40][41] Fire Department officials discovered that the store's sprinkler had been shut down, in violation of the local fire code.[42] Sharpton claimed that the perpetrator was an open critic of himself and his nonviolent tactics. Sharpton later expressed regret for making the racial remark, "white interloper," and denied responsibility for inflaming or provoking the violence.
I think in Belgium they recently passed a similar law like Sweden.
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Originally Posted by bchris02
This is a taboo issue in America but in other leftist countries like Sweden it has already become a reality. Clergy can actually be jailed over there for preaching against homosexuality. Luckily we have the First Amendment in this country preventing such a thing from happening over here. I have no doubt some liberals and some far right conservatives would like to put limits on free speech to silence those they disagree with. That is why I strongly support the second amendment despite not being much of a gun person myself. As soon as the government chips away our second amendment rights, other Constitutional rights will follow.
This is a taboo issue in America but in other leftist countries like Sweden it has already become a reality. Clergy can actually be jailed over there for preaching against homosexuality. Luckily we have the First Amendment in this country preventing such a thing from happening over here. I have no doubt some liberals and some far right conservatives would like to put limits on free speech to silence those they disagree with. That is why I strongly support the second amendment despite not being much of a gun person myself. As soon as the government chips away our second amendment rights, other Constitutional rights will follow.
Aah yes; the clergy preaching against homosexuality thingy. Perhaps, just perhaps their law which is deemed acceptable for their usage comes from a historical background of reasoned social intercourse constantly attempting to exclude any discriminatory behaviour. Whereas, in the U.S. of A., especially theologically,speaking, you have a completely different set of recent historical underpinnings? Only say'n.
Felony hate speech is not something to be smirked at like you are doing here.
It's not calling someone a bad name.
It's been applied to people of all races and creeds.
Imagine someone whipping a mob into a frenzy and sicking them on the local shop keeper who is then killed by the mob.
It's what Sharpton did once early in his career.
Once? He plays to the mobs and stirs up racial divisiveness nearly every day. From the Twana Bwaly (sp?) case, the Duke case and now the Zimmerman case, he has used the most vile hate speach to whip up a mob and try to ensure that non-blacks suffered great injustice. If "hate speach" becomes a felony, he will be one of the first they have to lock up.
legitimate "hate talk". . . spoken as truth and not opinion, should be highly illegal. I agree with those who think that everyone should be able to state their opinion, but it should be acknowledged as "opinion". . . . ..
It's protected under the first amendment. Move on. Why don't you folks just get together and have one big thread on the subject of racial slurs and how you think they're not so bad.
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