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I don't understand how he was getting beat for his life as if he didn't see it coming... This was a one on one fight between two perfectly capable people. GZ who should have been clearly trained for this situation had no right to kill someone just because he couldn't fight. I can 100% assure you that this wouldn't have happened if he was in the car. Its not like Trayvon would have jumped on top of the car, and demanded him to come out. I think it would've been better if GZ would have took the stand, and told people what really happened... Until then hes a murderer in my book
As opposed to assaulting some that could and in this case was armed.. yeah okay.
I'm not saying GZ was completely in the right, staying in the car would have been the best thing to do. Getting out doesn't deserve an ass kicking though.
For someone that wasn't there you sure are responding pretty strongly to this debate.. and you are making it sound like GZ shot TM as he was casually walking by.. You weren't there remember ..
Exactly, but apparently now people feel it's perfectly fine to follow anoymous people and not expect the person being followed to feel threatened. CD logic
Zim's first mistake was ignoring what a police department dispatcher told him to do and not to do.
We all know of Zim's wannabe cop history, and we know of his history of being violent, too bad this wasn't brought into court evidence, the outcome might be different. I wonder how jurors would feel about it if they have finally found out? I wonder if any would feel guilty for their findings?
How did GZ start a fight ? By following and observing him ?
If TM did not like being followed there was two choices he could have made. 1) run 2) confront GZ , not assault him. Something like "hey , my dad lives here , I'm on my way to his house, you can follow me there if you want "
So Zimmerman just followed and observed and had no interaction with Martin until he randomly attacked him? How do you know that it was Martin who attacked Zimmerman first? How do you know that Martin didn't feel threatened and that his life could be in danger? Stand your ground says you don't have to retreat in self defense, therefore he didnt need to run away based on that law, why didn't Zimmerman just run away?
I would do the obvious, pick up the phone and stay inside. Being outside in a yard can be detrimental to one's health. Why confront? That's the cop's job.
Standing in your own yard observing what is going on in your nieghborhood should not have any issues unless the people your observing are indeed going to do something wrong. So now we are victims that have to hide in our houses ? Observing and engaging are two completely different things.
As opposed to assaulting some that could and in this case was armed.. yeah okay.
I'm not saying GZ was completely in the right, staying in the car would have been the best thing to do. Getting out doesn't deserve an ass kicking though.
So your alternative to assaulting a stranger is to advise your teen to tell them they were heading home and the stranger could follow them there? Again, TERRIBLE ADVICE!
Standing in your own yard observing what is going on in your nieghborhood should not have any issues unless the people your observing are indeed going to do something wrong. So now we are victims that have to hide in our houses ? Observing and engaging are two completely different things.
I grew up in a crime-ridden area and value my life. No way in hell I'm going outside to "observe" anything that looks like criminal activity (unless someone was in direct need for help). A call to 911 from the comforts of my home will do just fine.
Standing in your own yard observing what is going on in your nieghborhood should not have any issues unless the people your observing are indeed going to do something wrong. So now we are victims that have to hide in our houses ? Observing and engaging are two completely different things.
Did he tell you that you had to do anything?
I recall him being asked (by you) what he, specifically, would do.
Now you're complaining about an answer.
Who said you had to do anything?
A handshaking relationship with reality is a good thing.
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