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Right...so you have to stand and get boned and sodomized to initiate self-defense. Look, civil rights have to work two ways. As distasteful as you may find it, Zimmerman did have rights. Could he have used more judgement? Sure. And so could Trayvon to include NOT throwing the first punch?
Besides, his case was NOT a SYG you igit. It was CLEARLY self-defense, argued by attorneys that way, defended in court that way.
Self-Defense is simply waiting for the A hole to start something. SYG says you don't necessarily have to retreat, give up, run away and wait for an a beating before you defend yourself which by then, may be too late?
SYG is making CRIMINALS think....novel. They no longer have an upper hand or slight advantage in assaults. It's holding THEM accountable to some degree.....
From the link:
Dunn told police he felt threatened by the response from the teens, the statement said.
No, it isn't. There are specifics in Self Defense, not in stand your ground. You only have to "feel" threatened in SYG. It's subjective.
No they're not. Do you people have to work at being so ignorant, or does it come naturally? Stand Your Ground IS self defense. No matter how many times the media, and people like you, repeat the blatant lie that SYG allows murder, and bring up cases that haven't even been decided in court, it clearly does not.
"A stand-your-ground law is a type of self-defense law that gives individuals the right to use reasonable force to defend themselves without any requirement to evade or retreat from a dangerous situation."
I think they should be changed so they read, you can use deadly force only after being shot once or stabbed three times this will prove the "self-defense" statute, no deadly force is allowed if you are being physically assaulted by a baseball bat, tire iron, chain, fits or any other non-lethal weapon.
OMFG.
Are you actually serious with this post, or is my sarcasm detector broken?
If you were serious, your post is a total crock of poop, in so many ways that it'd take me an hour to explain them all to you.
Oh, and for the record, in most states, use of deadly force is justified when one has reason to believe that they are in danger of death or great bodily injury.
Are you actually serious with this post, or is my sarcasm detector broken?
If you were serious, your post is a total crock of poop, in so many ways that it'd take me an hour to explain them all to you.
Oh, and for the record, in most states, use of deadly force is justified when one has reason to believe that they are in danger of death or great bodily injury.
It may take a few more shootings, but these youth today will learn to respect their elders. This is a result of taking the paddle out of schools and sparing the rod.
So loud music should warrant the death penalty, and I can be the judge, jury, and executioner whenever I hear loud music? One of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. People saying the kids should have turned down the music are missing the point. That guy was not law enforcement, so he had no authority to tell anyone to do anything. Having a gun does not give him any more power than anyone else! And who cares if he didn't like the kids' music, what gives him the right to do anything about it, let alone decide to kill someone over it??!
And the guy is claiming he thought he saw a gun, his excuse to use stand your ground. But witnesses at the scene said the kids had nothing resembling any weapon. This guy is cooked, he is just hoping a bonehead jury will let a murderer go free.
No, but acting in a threatening manner which might cause the man who defended himself to fear for his life would.
It is too early to make a judgment one way or the other anyway, so what is wrong with asking pertinent questions?
of course its too early to make a judgement, even tho no weapons were found among teens
but ur right, lets reserve judgement till all the other facts come out, like how they were really ghetto and posted "gangsta" things on facebook
that might jus excuse the guy, after all, why would he lie about being threatened? there is NO chance at all that he was jus a psycho racist "tough guy" with a gun who wanted to teach em a lesson...
Dunn's attorney, Robin Lemonidis, told CNN Monday that Dunn told police that he reacted after having seen a gun barrel in the window of the teens' car and after hearing a profanity-laced string of threats against him and his girlfriend while the teens motioned they were opening the door.
Nothing wrong with asking someone to be a decent human being and turn down their loud music - whether it's rap or Beethoven. They could have just said no, we're happy acting like jerks. Instead, Dunn alleges that they cursed at him and made threats, and that he saw a gun. That is enough to make a reasonable person feel threatened, although the article isn't specific as to what those threats were.
I wonder if there were witnesses or security video. There was no gun found, but perhaps one of the surviving teens got rid of it before the cops arrived. Also, he should have called the police immediately after leaving the scene, especially if he suspected gang activity in the area.
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