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I realize that gun control reduces violent crime, and I realize that a society does not require handguns or high capacity magazine fed weapons to protect it'self from tyranny; however, our society is like no other on earth, as there is simply no way to take these weapons off the streets at this point, which is why I often carry a concealed pistol. I can tell you that rational thinking Gun owners like myself are the minority. Most of the people I know that legally carry a firearm on them are no smarter than the criminals they're protecting themselves from. Most gun enthusiasts are in fact "stupid."
How else will the citizen protect themselves from tyranny? I want the same weapons as law enforcement and standard military infantry.
You are using your life experience to stereotype every gun owner. That's great. I treat everyone individually and don't make any judgement until I know the person or they do something to prove me wrong. Even then, most people can be taught.
Drunk people might be a different story legally speaking. I don't think you would get away with shooting a confused drunk person breaking into your home, especially if you told the police on the phone that he was drunk. Would be enough to push him around a bit till he falls
I agree, stuff you buy from the money you really earned yourself gives you a sense of pride that a gift or loot can't give you -- the loot part I can only speculate on, of course
Apparently you come in contact with drunk people on a regular basis. Drunks can be the most violent people with you would want to deal with.
At the time, it may have been. Now, the law is on my side. As soon as he enters the door or window, it is unlawful and I can assume he is there to commit harm to me and my family. I can legally respond with deadly force.
That is the problem. The goal should be to merely incapacitate someone like that, not kill them.
I would have a poor conscience till the end of my life if I killed a drunk person, even if they broke into my home. I would not have a poor conscience if I were responsible for the death of a serial killer, though. But that does not mean I would actually and deliberately want to kill one.
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Originally Posted by Weedsnake
Apparently you come in contact with drunk people on a regular basis. Drunks can be the most violent people with you would want to deal with.
2nd grade, show & tell, had me talking about all the things I killed and ate with my .22 single shot, as the kids in the circle passed it around.(unloaded)
That is the problem. The goal should be to merely incapacitate someone like that, not kill them.
I would have a poor conscience till the end of my life if I killed a drunk person, even if they broke into my home. I would not have a poor conscience if I were responsible for the death of a serial killer, though. But that does not mean I would actually and deliberately want to kill one.
Tell me about it, my father was an alcoholic
Unfortunately, here in America, we only shoot to kill, if for no other reason than to avoid a lawsuit.
That is the problem. The goal should be to merely incapacitate someone like that, not kill them.
I would have a poor conscience till the end of my life if I killed a drunk person, even if they broke into my home. I would not have a poor conscience if I were responsible for the death of a serial killer, though. But that does not mean I would actually and deliberately want to kill one.
Tell me about it, my father was an alcoholic
Now I totally understand, why and how you were raised to be a victim.
I'm so glad I taught my daughter about respect and being able to defend herself, in all situations and she is just now 16.
Now I totally understand, why and how you were raised to be a victim.
I'm so glad I taught my daughter about respect and being able to defend herself, in all situations and she is just now 16.
I'm not a victim at all. Luckily I was raised mainly by my wonderful mother and by myself
That is the problem. The goal should be to merely incapacitate someone like that, not kill them.
I would have a poor conscience till the end of my life if I killed a drunk person, even if they broke into my home. I would not have a poor conscience if I were responsible for the death of a serial killer, though. But that does not mean I would actually and deliberately want to kill one.
I don't have time to ask the person whether or not they are there to sleep it off on friend's couch or he's come to collect on a bad drug debt by spilling blood. This guys was screaming "LET ME IN, JOE!!!!" and beating on the door with his fists. Was it frustration that he though his friend had left him in the cold or was it anger?
Do I shoot him in the leg? I am 10 feet from him. I'm not aiming at a body part that is 6 inches wide. I'm aiming center mass. Check out Self Defense: Shooting From Retention - YouTube You don't see arms or legs on the targets. You can go to any reputable training center and they all have these targets. Look at the holes. There's no shooting in the shoulder. I have taken both handgun and rifle classes like this.
I don't have time to ask the person whether or not they are there to sleep it off on friend's couch or he's come to collect on a bad drug debt by spilling blood. This guys was screaming "LET ME IN, JOE!!!!" and beating on the door with his fists. Was it frustration that he though his friend had left him in the cold or was it anger?
Do I shoot him in the leg? I am 10 feet from him. I'm not aiming at a body part that is 6 inches wide. I'm aiming center mass. Check out Self Defense: Shooting From Retention - YouTube You don't see arms or legs on the targets. You can go to any reputable training center and they all have these targets. Look at the holes. There's no shooting in the shoulder. I have taken both handgun and rifle classes like this.
Well, judging from what you describe, you would probably go to jail if you shot such a drunk person over here...
A normal sober male can incapacitate a drunk guy in some other way. If necessary you hit him over the head with a pan
I hate alcohol, tends to bring out the worst in people
Well, judging from what you describe, you would probably go to jail if you shot such a drunk person over here...
A normal sober male can incapacitate a drunk guy in some other way. If necessary you hit him over the head with a pan
I hate alcohol, tends to bring out the worst in people
But you must love firearms considering you've taken the time on them to do 30 posts in this thread. I'd label that an obsession! If I didn't know any better I'd say Neuling just likes mewling.
By the way, drunks can be quite unpredictable and hitting them with a pan requires getting within reach of them which isn't too bright. Center of mass is absolutely the correct aiming point. Remember, a shot that misses has to stop somewhere. If the individual broke into my home, we have a Castle Doctrine to protect our interests if I shoot him which I likely will. I'm not going to ask him if he's drunk or high on drugs first.
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